Posted on 11/29/2011 2:12:04 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
His other argument is the same old silly one every worthless politician uses, the one about rounding up 20 million illegals and putting them on a bus back to wherever they came from, only this time he's actually worried about what the rest of the world will think about us. The truth is we can let them go back the same way they came in, which is by themselves, if we tightly tie shut the string on the goody bag. Go after businesses that hire illegals. Cut off free medical care to anyone who walks into the emergency room. Deny an education to any child whose parents can't prove citizenship. Take away the tax-exempt status of churches or charities that coddle illegals. When we quit making it profitable to break our laws the lawbreakers will leave on their own. If you want to humor Neal's stupid rant save the successful business owners for last and make them either pay for their transgressions or go home. If their business was that great somebody else will fill the gap they leave behind.
Feck off, Neal. Go peddle your pandering blather to the Newt groupies while the rest of us try to clean up the mess you don't have the stones to clean up yourself.
Boortz, Ingraham, Medved, Hannity Humphries always attempt to rope in the ignorant masses and deliver them to the pork barrel GOP.....
Boortz and Humphries with the pretense of being BFAMs of Cain, both have thrown him under the bus...and telling us to get in line with the amnesty loving mandate hugging Gingrich...
Getting Obama out of office is very important, and so is not allowing the voter base to get flooded with newly minted Democrats or phony “citizens” who never were.
I’m not sure Boortz is worth the sturm und drang. So much of this wrangle has gone without much of a charted illegale management plan on the part of any GOP presidential hopeful, Bachmann aside. Unfortunately Bachmann doesn’t seem to be viable, for other reasons. I believe all the hopefuls should be forced to list their proposed policies in black and white. Even though Cain’s is probably going to say “ask the experts.”
I tried to call in but the line was busy. I guess taking responsablity for your actions do not apply to illegal. I will still listen to him some but his ratings have gone way down.
I tried to call in but the line was busy. I guess taking responsablity for your actions do not apply to illegal. I will still listen to him some but his ratings have gone way down.
It amazes and puzzles me as to how many city councils, mayors, police departments, governors, presidents, judges, congressmen and senators, have colluded in protecting these foreign invaders.
The common link is in getting elected or re-elected and the unions. The unions are strongly pro-illegal alien, in fact they are pro-open borders and a one-world-government. They make no bones about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXlXwV_QNrE&feature=related
Andrew Stern
SEIU is the largest union and fastest growing in the WORLD, not just the U.S.
They control the government and corporations throughout the WORLD.
They want to represent every man, woman and child in our country.
He admits to using activists to force his policies.
He wants to turn our country into a Democratic country, just like what is happening in the mid-East.
This was posted in April 2008. He is touting forced healthcare even then. This is when he was only dreaming about Obama.
He says he will rebalance the power of big corporations and employees in the Free Choice Act.
He will give citizenship to every illegal in our country.
He wants to turn our country into a multi-lingual country.
10% of his people, 200,000 will be the leaders of change, to change America.
The gap between the rich and the rest of us is growing far too wide.
We are in a moment where we can change America.
We are going to have to take our SEIU effort to a new level.
We are going to put $10 million dollars into a bank account to combat politicians that defy us.
We are on the verge of changing our country.
Andrew Stern, former SEIU president
Youtube link no longer works
And we are beginning we have offices now in Australia and Switzerland and London, in South America, in Africa. We have been working with unions around the world and what were working towards is building a global organization because workers of the world unite is not just a slogan anymore, it is the way we have to do our work.
We are trying to use the powers of persuasion, and if that doesnt work, then well use the persuasion of power because there are governments and there are opportunities to change laws that affect these countries. Im not naive, were ready to strike.
There are opportunities in America to share better in the wealth, the rebalance of power and unions and government are part of the solution.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/obama_did_create_3_million_job.html
According to this article, Andrew Stern not only makes frequent trips to the White House, he makes frequent trips to China and Chinas unions.
“I get in trouble on Glenn Beck saying, ‘Workers of the world unite!’ It’s not just a slogan,” Stern says. It’s critical, he adds, for US and Chinese workers to see each other as allies, and he argues that efforts such as his can help shift the ACFTU (Chinese Union) in a direction that will make it much more representative of its hundreds of millions of members.
The title of this article is Obama Did Create 3 Million JobsIn China
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2530707/posts
Andy Stern, A Member of Obama’s Fiscal Responsibility Commission, Says...
CNS News link no longer works, Tuesday, June 08, 2010 | By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer
“Andy Stern, A Member of Obamas Fiscal Responsibility Commission, Says Worshipping the Market Has Failed America”
“Andy Stern, former head of Services Employees International Union (SEIU) and a President Barack Obama appointee to the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, said on Monday that the free market has failed the country and American workers. He made his remarks at a conference of the Campaign for America’s Future in Washington, D.C., on Monday. (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)”
SNIPPET: “(CNSNews.com) Andy Stern, the former head of the Service Employees International Union who now sits on President Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, said the United States needs an economic plan that does not include worshipping the free market.
America needs a 21st century economic plan because we now know the market-worshipping, privatizing, de-regulating, dehumanizing American financial plan has failed and should never be revived, worshipping the market again, Stern said in remarks at the annual conference of the liberal activist group Campaign for Americas Future in Washington on Monday.
It has failed America and everyone that works here, Stern said.
Stern said the changes that Obama and Democrats in Congress have made are nothing short of a revolution that will move the American economy from national to international.”
Think about it for a moment, its not very hard. The unions need money to buy politicians. They have openly said they will select our Republican candidates.
When we allow illiterate peasants into our country, they need subsidies, they need government assistance. That government assistance comes with union government employees that are forced to pay dues to the unions.
Illegal immigration is a closely guarded secret, no one wants us to know how many there are. So we go to the elementary schools where they list races, English learners and free lunches. I use www.greatschools.org . My local schools is 100% Latino and English learners, all on free meals. They get fed breakfast, lunch and dinner, plus there is free baby sitting by SEIU employees.
Ill give you an example, Reseda Elementary School. It is in the Los Angeles area. http://www.greatschools.org/cgi-bin/ca/other/2342#toc
85% Mexican with a state average of 49%
88% free lunch with a state average of 52%
Home languages of English Learners, Spanish 89% with a state average of 85%
The story of American jobs and labor is deeply intertwined with predatory Federal, state and local taxation and regulation....
South Koreans sleep soundly on their border with NORKS because of American Taxpayer dollars and the American GI.
Why cant Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonans and Californians?....BECAUSE
Illegal immigration is THE KEY to the perpetuation of the status quo in DC......
Predatory tax and regulatory policies-actions that basically serve to perpetuate and grow governments-leave what business is left in the country seeking disposable labor.
Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation. Interestingly, that is WHY the Feds encourage in-state tuition etc for illegals under-the-table -their presence providing disposable labor allows Federal, State and local regulatory and tax excess in the status quo to continue
Immigration is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...
Real leadership is that which will place Flyover Countrys interest ahead of the Feds....havent yet seen anything meaningful anywhere from anybody to indicate that might happen. We have just one more election cycle to make that happen via rule of law. Otherwise its the end of the run for America.
Michelle B and other’s would only be happy if the American Consulates and US Embassy’s issued more Visa’s to white europeans. This is a distinct possibility, but as an employee who has spent the past eight years supports Consular Sections where the non-immigrant and Immigrant visa’s are issued, it looks like the US has a policy to bring to our Shores a slice of humanity from every racial and ethenic group on the Planet. The FACE of the United States of America is going to be a Mini-United Nations - a place where hopefully SOCIALISM does not destroy the INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS & FREEDOMS necessary under our “crony” CAPITALISTIC Constitutional system.
Here is my problem with Newt, he is pro-amnesty and anti-American. Not only does he want to give amnesty, he wants to import more aliens to compete with our citizens that are seeking a job.
From: http://www.newt.org/solutions/immigration
3. In-source the best brains in the world
Allow easier transition from an F (student) visa to an H1-B (high-skill) visa.
Allow qualified foreign students to transition immediately into the American workforce.
4. Allow foreigners, who want to spend money, invest and create jobs in America to do so.
(What he is saying here is to do away with the $1 million minimum investment required for an EB-5 program that allows foreigners to move here. Open business based on the foreigners skill to raise American capital, as long as he employees people for 10 years)
6. Create a path to earned legality for some of the millions of people who are here outside the law.
(Oh, there are only 8 to 12 million illegal aliens)
A citizens review in individual communities to determine who will continue on this path to legality, and who will be sent home.
(to insure that communities remain segregated)
those here outside the law will be granted Temporary Legal Status
(All of them)
must be able to prove that they can independently pay for private health insurance
proficiency in English within a certain number of years
(Is he talking about those that have already been here 25 years? My neighbor wouldnt qualify)
pay a penalty of at least $5,000
(Each of their kids cost the taxpayer approximately $130,000 for kindergarten thru 12th grade)
prove on a regular basis that they can support themselves
My humble opinion you are correct. It will be a cold day in hell before I go along with that crap.
Not only did his parents spell his first name wrong, they never mentioned that his last name is really Putz.
Not only did his parents spell his first name wrong, they never mentioned that his last name is really Putz.
Not only did his parents spell his first name wrong, they never mentioned that his last name is really Putz.
****Our country is a magnet. Our way of life, our freedoms, our opportunities all a magnet; a magnet much more powerful than giving some long-time illegal (but otherwise law-abiding) residents a break.****
OK Boortz, lets compromise. All illegal aliens who have used our freedoms and opportunities to enrich themselves and their families and have done so in a manner true to the American dream can stay. Any illegal who has taken other peoples money to sponge off that other persons American dream can be deported back from whence they came. How many do you think would qualify to stay Neal? 3% sound reasonable? 6%? You might be surprised by how low that number is. We should do what we did in the beginning again, take the best and deport the rest.
I am all for enforcement, because it isn't just illegals that come across that border. The problem is that there are still other ways to arrive in the U.S. and we will still have the 12-20 million illegals that are already here. Lock down illegal employment and the illegals will leave.
I agree with Boortz that Obama is a bigger threat than any or our mock-worthy RINOs but I don't think any Republican primary candidate must have a "plan" to "clean up the mess". For too long we've been taking step one for granted and the easy statement above is just a continuation of that. I want to see a detailed plan on how to stop the flood. THEN we'll discuss cleaning up the mess. After all this is yet another mess CREATED by Democrats with their sanctuary cities, refusal to prosecute landlords who rent to illegals and feel-good benefits to the "undocumented". And once again we fall into the trap: the Democrats create the mess and demand the Republicans must have a plan they approve of to clean up their mess. Focus on step one. Period. That's going to take enough effort. If successful, we'll talk about follow on steps. No one has yet accomplished step one (not even Reagan) and we need to stop looking past it as if it's a fait acompli.
Yeah, we're almost certainly going to end up with a RINO. At this point it comes down to which RINO can conservatives have the most influence over. Personally I don't think the answer to that question is Newt (since he's not even listening now).
Should we secure the borders the same way we did under the last amnesty program? Probably the worst thing Regan did while in office. It opened the flood gates for those that wanted in on the US give away programs. While I dont think we can make our boarders impenetrable we should make it tough to cross. Why dont we hold our Desert training on the border? We should also at the same time make it uncomfortable to be here illegally. As it is now with sanctuary cities and anchor babies all you have to do is make it past the line and the freebees are there for the taking. If illegals can get one fake ID why not really cash in and get multiple IDs and double or triple your take. Make an example of a few by deporting them and confiscate all their illegal gains. The problem will then be solved by self deportation
Amnesty is nothing more than government growth hormone.
The 30 million or so illegals get representation simply by being here and getting counted in the census. What is the cost of paying those 40 or 50 congressmen their 6 figure salaries? How much do we pay their staff? How much are their expense accounts and benefits? What is the cost of running a congressional district? How many pork projects and earmarks does a congressman seek for his district?
All of those costs come before the obvious costs that we always talk about.
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