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The fact that she's having financial difficulties doesn't make her a liar. However, I watched Mr. Cain with Blizzer, and Mr. Cain said specifically and affirmatively that there was no sex, and no affair. The question then is why are some conservatives on the board, assuming the truth of the allegations?

He has the right to the presumption of innocence, no?

1 posted on 11/28/2011 7:24:49 PM PST by VinL
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While living in Louisville, Kentucky, she worked at Recruitment Plus, LLC. According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing from the late 1980s.

Well surprise, surprise!
2 posted on 11/28/2011 7:27:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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That’s a heap of financial trouble. Interesting that ABC is reporting it all.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 7:29:45 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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That Soros Cash sure goes a long way.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 7:30:47 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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I think he is innocent. However, we are dealing with an electability issue. I don’t think he’s electable.

Unfortunately, we’ve been given the short stick. If we end up with Romney, it will be a choice between a GOP liberal and a Dem liberal. How do you handle that?


5 posted on 11/28/2011 7:32:45 PM PST by Brilliant
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“But Cain’s campaign is standing firm by the idea that this is manufactured - his Iowa chairman, Steve Grubbs, tweeted out that White is a “shocking, defaming libeler.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69269.html


6 posted on 11/28/2011 7:33:30 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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Why would she have access to Cain’s cell number and why did they maintain such a long friendship IF she was or is such a low life? Cain needs to surround himself with better people both privately and publicly. IF some conversations or other evidence is shown in regards to the alleged affair..Cain is toast and finished in politics forever.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 7:34:27 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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The question then is why are some conservatives on the board, assuming the truth of the allegations?
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Because they’re not Conservatives.

Some even go so far as to claim evidence that isn’t out there (Yep I’m talking about you Longbow1969)


8 posted on 11/28/2011 7:35:04 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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So when the mainstream media decides which false accusers get to be in the news, don’t they first send out a team of professionals to look into it?

You’d think they would, just to eliminate the ones with a long history of bankruptcies, making accusations, and trying to cash in on settlements.


10 posted on 11/28/2011 7:38:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. (See W.L. Craig, and many others.))
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High-risk strategy for the Dems to try and destroy Herman this early. In Cain survives all this and ends up on top, he will be unbeatable.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 7:38:42 PM PST by montag813
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I like the mature objectivity of your tone, VL, after the torrent of opinion like a sandstorm blowing through these Cain threads. My eyes are burning.

It would be useful, when the next charge hits, that we have a thread, kept in the sidebar, and labeled, as in this instance: Cain/White Facts. And as it unfolded, each bit of information sans opinion would be listed, including not-yet-verified research, like the Chicago connection that someone said will be coming. This would enable periodically checking the facts. But I am not volunteering...
22 posted on 11/28/2011 7:55:47 PM PST by jobim (.)
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I was looking at one of the other threads, and I realized it’s basically just 2 or 3 guys making the vast majority of anti-Cain posts. And they just repeat themselves, over and over and over again.


25 posted on 11/28/2011 8:00:34 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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It is ironic that the infidelity for which Cain is being defamed would not have any effect if Obama were accused of the same charges. Zer0 would be seen as a sexy man with the extramarital affairs as part of the package. His image would go higher with the Democrats.

No, Cain’s infidelity is directed at the Cain supporters who do have concern about his moral behavior. They will have to decide to throw off their concerns as the sacrifice needed to bring about the defeat of Zer0 and win back the White House and, on his coat tails, the Senate.


34 posted on 11/28/2011 8:14:43 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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I certainly don’t assume he’s guilty of anything but poor campaign skills at this point.

That lawyer was supposed to show how Cain was great at managing problems by getting good people he could trust.

But if you are going to send out a lawyer to say that an alleged affair is nobody’s business, you don’t also have the candidate come out and claim the story is a lie.

Because even if you would accept that the media has no business asking whether a candidate had an affair or not, I can say with absolute certainty that a candidate accusing a woman of lying about an affair is absolutely something the press should and will investigate fully.

So if you wanted to get the press to back down, Cain had to stay silent. And since you have to assume the campaign coordinated the response, it means Cain thought it was a good idea to deny the affair and then have his lawyer tell the press it wasn’t any of their business. And that is the problem I see here.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 8:26:40 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Talk host Rusty Humpries interviewed the Fox reporter who broke the story through the local FOX affiliate. Being familiar with how things work, The reporter admitted “working” on the story for a week. By working the thrust of her statements was that she decided to “defend the other women who she claimed were being (paraphrased)villified and wanted to defend them. She claimed Cain dropped her when he decided to make his run.

Story concepts and direction usually come from the editor. Even though this came through FOX that doesn’t mean this gal was not worked on.

If Cain was a dema-com she’d be be dipped and cooked in effluent. As it is what the MSM is going to do is bring on GS/BS and play and replay the victim device. We can’t have some uppity conservative black running for office...


47 posted on 11/28/2011 8:29:20 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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It isn’t about truth or innocence. IT is about smear.

Besides, the democrats know well enough, tell a lie often enough and some idiot somewhere will believe it.

What was the phrase, there’s a sucker born every minute. I am not buying this affair crap.


49 posted on 11/28/2011 8:31:09 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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He absolutely has the presumption of innocence.

So I will state the following...and not post an “if he is innocent/guilty” so I don't become redundant before each thought. (keep in mind they are only thoughts).

Mr. Cain's atty publicly stated that anyone else coming forward with accusations better have proof. I guess that will remain to be seen. Thirteen years is a long time to have no proof.

This lady may have had a relationship with Mr. Cain and got her knickers in a knot when all the other accusations were aired. Sort of like...Hey, how dare you cheat on me (real “relationship” or not) while you are cheating on your wife with me. Gives a whole new meaning to...I'll get you my pretty. AND..you dump me and take your financial support away for a presidential run???

In Mr. Cain's defense...if there is a shred of truth...what man who has had the whistle blown on him would not give an adamant denial? Hey, he might not be president, but I feel sure he doesn't want to lose his wife. Sort of like an acquaintance used to say...What are you gonna believe, what your lyin’ eyes see or what I'm tellin’ you.

I like Mr. Cain. I like him a lot. But this doesn't bode well for him. That being said, I could still vote for him.

And my heartfelt sorrow goes to his wife and family. Whether the accusations are true or not.

51 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:09 PM PST by berdie
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This lady is a businesswoman about like Jessie Jackson is a Rev.


52 posted on 11/28/2011 8:40:07 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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Hmmmmmm, - - - . She is unemployed, in financial trouble, - - - maybe someone should look at her recent changes in her bank account and spending patterns. Just saying - - - .


86 posted on 11/28/2011 9:30:09 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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snip .....”In a strange interview on CNN Monday, Cain said he would examine any new women accusing him of sexual impropriety “detail by detail, accusation by accusation” through his celebrity lawyer, Lin Wood. But Wood’s statement to Fox 5 in Atlanta skips over any denials and tells the press to butt out: “Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public.” Meanwhile, Cain asserted he’s “done nothing wrong” and will treat himself to a steak dinner tonight......”

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/11/cain-denies-affair-his-lawyer-says-should-be-private/45474/

This is what I heard. His fancy pants lawyer doesn’t deny allegations and claims it’s “consensual conduct”. Can you say GUILTY? OMG! CROUTONS!


115 posted on 11/28/2011 10:18:44 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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In this economy not many folks not having what could fairly be described as financial difficulties


154 posted on 11/28/2011 11:09:05 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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