gc, here is what Cain said:
“The only point I was trying to make: a lot of families would be in that position, and they’re not going to be thinking ‘Well, what does the government want me to do?’ “ Cain said. “My position is no abortion, but all I was trying to point out was: take the typical family in this country, and you don’t know what they might do in the heat of the moment.”
xzins has been very dishonestly trying to twist Cain’s words throughout this whole thread. He’s trying to say that because Cain acknowledges that some will choose to break the law, that means Cain *wants* them to break it. I cannot believe a man who claims to be a Christian is doing this. It is dirty, lowdown, dishonest and shameful.
Up-thread, I gave xzins multiple examples in which I acknowledged that people sometimes do in fact choose to break the law. None of the examples indicate that I am encouraging that behavior. Cain’s acknowledgement that some people will break the law is simply the truth; he is stating an uncontroversial, incontestable fact. That xzins continues to smear him for it is breathtakingly ugly and disgusting. I hope, for the sake of the Name he claims to honor, respect and follow, he will stop it.
[xzins, you would not want to be treated in the same dishonest and shameful way you are treating Cain. Please take the Golden Rule to heart and stop with these repulsive and dishonest smears.]
To put a finer point on it, take this example. Suppose, in the context of a discussion on murder, I said, ‘Some people, in the heat of the moment, will choose to commit murder’.
If it were a one-for-one analogy, xzins would hound me for several hundred posts, claiming I encourage and support murder. Merely because I state a simple and obvious truth: some people DO choose to commit murder, despite the fact it is illegal.
Have you, gc, ever heard of anything so hateful and vile in your life? I can honestly say that this level of smear and dishonesty takes my breath away. I wouldn’t even expect it of a non-Christian, much less of someone who claims to follow Jesus.
The topic of Cain’s comment was abortion, and not raising kids.
He said that in the heat of the moment families could choose to do the illegal.
It is not likely that choosing to have mom raise their kids is illegal. Therefore, it was about abortion that he was speaking. That is what Michelle Bachmann thought he was speaking of. The same with Rick Santorum. Given that one is a congresswoman and the other a senator, it is not likely that they are ignorant people....partisan maybe, but not ignorant.
Cain had just finished making serious remarks about families needing to make their own choices in these matters...pro-choice.
It all boils down to me not trusting his pro-life position, and to my advising others not to trust his pro-life position.
And he is lost when it comes to foreign policy.