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Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield”
ACLU Blog ^ | 11/23/2011 | Chris Anders

Posted on 11/26/2011 7:27:46 AM PST by autumnraine

While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.

Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.

The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at aclu.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aclu; carlevin; carllevin; defauthorization; lindseygraham; mccain; mccainbill; possecomitatus
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To: autumnraine

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1540


41 posted on 11/26/2011 10:12:47 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks autumnraine.
The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president -- and every future president -- the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world.
comments, please.


42 posted on 11/26/2011 10:13:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

And it was voted on, and it is a 48 year old legislation that gets an appropriation every year with some amendments.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 10:14:56 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: LucyT

Whoops, thanks LucyT! [blush]


44 posted on 11/26/2011 10:15:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: autumnraine
Oh, and it was drafted in secret by McCain and a Democrat.

Is there some way to kick McCain out of our party? God, I hope so...

45 posted on 11/26/2011 10:19:20 AM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: Sudetenland
Wake me when the Heritage Foundation, Michelle Malkin, National Review, or one of the more mainstream, conservative sites mentions this before I over-react.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Michele Malkin? Huh?...or...the other major conservative yappers?

Sorry! I don't trust them. Given their abysmal vetting of Obama’s eligibility, and ignoring his forgeries, fake social security numbers, failure to e-verify and other outrages, these people will be **worthless** in the face of true tyranny.

Count on it! When true tyranny comes to our nation Malkin, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Ingrham, Medved, and the rest, will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will lick the jack boots crushing our necks. Oh! And “Ditto” for our most highest ranking military officers. Forgery and identity theft is now part of their military code of honor and oath to defend the Constitution.

46 posted on 11/26/2011 10:42:42 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: matthew fuller
"...the active, deliberate participation of the French (occupied) government in the NAZI Holocaust..."

Sounds like an interesting film. I think that over 12,000 of the Jews deported from Paris were children. A bit over a year ago, I was in the Faubourg-Montmartre district of Paris. Near a synagogue, I saw a memorial plaque that made mention of that statistic.

47 posted on 11/26/2011 10:57:08 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: autumnraine

Excuse Me folks

But this is a Declaration of War on the American people, how can you see it any other way. This is the one bill that says screw the constitution, screw the American people, we will arrest you as we see fit or kill you without a trial or charges.

Here is the bill that just made all of us terrorists and declared war on each and everyone of us.

Get prepared here it comes.


48 posted on 11/26/2011 11:03:52 AM PST by ggwyo
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To: Charles Martel

It was a very interesting film- I never knew about French involvement in the holocaust, checked it on the internet, and found out that a French court confirmed this in 2009. Amazing what a “civilized” country can perpetuate on it’s own citizens. This atrocity was committed by the French Police against French citizens.


49 posted on 11/26/2011 11:12:55 AM PST by matthew fuller (I stand with Leroy!)
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To: autumnraine

Repealing the Patriot Act is a more urgent priority than repealing Obamacare, it would seem.


50 posted on 11/26/2011 11:14:21 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: skeeter

The ACLU, in all cases, is FOR the enemy and AGAINST the people of the United States.


51 posted on 11/26/2011 11:22:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: matthew fuller
There were even French soldiers in the German Army in WWII.

In case you missed it GERMANY CONQUERED FRANCE!!!

Oh, yes they did, and then they took all their resources, and drafted their kids and killed their Jews.

That can happen when one country beats another which is why WE do not ever want that to happen to us.

Still, even as your side wins, war can be particularly horrible ~ during D-Day when our forces landed in France to push the Germans back between 15,000 and 20,000 French civilians were killed.

FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF 9/11 ~ (provided only for reference).

52 posted on 11/26/2011 11:30:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: autumnraine

This is from an ACLU blog. Until I see it in an analytical presentation from a reliably unbiased source, or from a Conservative source I will refrain from becoming panicked about it.

ACLU, Carl Levin, and John McCain are just more synonyms for bullshit.


53 posted on 11/26/2011 11:48:11 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Yorlik803
Never thought I would type this,but Thumbs up to the ACLU...

They're looking ahead to the possibility of their boys being replaced by conservatives, who at some future time might decide to lock up the anti-America dirtbags they usually defend.

54 posted on 11/26/2011 12:28:26 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: muawiyah
"FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF 9/11 "

You obviously missed my original post (#19). There were 76,000 Jews sent to Germany, (NOT 12,000). And I also specified that it was occupied France.

55 posted on 11/26/2011 12:53:52 PM PST by matthew fuller (I stand with Leroy!)
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To: autumnraine
I found a previous thread on this topic to be useful in identifying enthusiastic supporters of the police state.

YMMV



56 posted on 11/26/2011 1:03:10 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: matthew fuller

You missed the point of my post ~ there were THOUSANDS of civilians killed at Normandy as we invaded. We were on their side BTW!


57 posted on 11/26/2011 1:20:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Howie66

Looks like I got the new Cabela’s credit card just in time.


58 posted on 11/26/2011 1:22:57 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (17, 22, 24, 25, 27, 30, 32, 38, 40: as time goes by, my caliber just keeps going up. 50 next year?)
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To: autumnraine

When the ACLU starts sounding “right” then you know we’re in deep kimchee!


59 posted on 11/26/2011 2:59:32 PM PST by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: wintertime
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

You really are a paranoid Twilight Zoner.

Yeah, all of those folks who have been out there fighting the battle against the left for the past decade or two are real sell outs./sarc

Yeah, Hannity was a real sell out when he led the attack against Obama and his relationship with Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Rush was aa real sell out when he stated that he hoped Obama fails because what Obama was trying to implement was a Socialist nightmare.

Your psychotic little dog won't hunt, but you just keep living in your little delusional paranoid world, spouting your imaginings and attacking the folks who everyday go on the air blasting the sitting President and all who surround him and support him.

By the way, what drugs are you abusing, I might like to try them sometime?
60 posted on 11/26/2011 4:09:18 PM PST by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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