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The supercommittee failed because Democrats insisted on $1 trillion in new taxes
Washington Post ^ | Nov 25, 2011 | Jon Kyl, Rob Portman, Pat Toomey, Jeb Hensarling, Fred Upton and Dave Camp

Posted on 11/25/2011 7:17:33 PM PST by Innovative

We do not choose to add more to the blame game for failure of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction , but one Democratic talking point needs debunking: that the talks failed because of Republicans’ attachment to the Bush tax cuts.

The untold story of the negotiations is the significance of the Republican offer of fundamental tax reform. It is critical to understand the interplay between the proposal (dubbed the "Toomey plan") and existing tax law.

At no time in the negotiations did the Democratic committee members drop their insistence that, one way or the other, any deal had to include a trillion dollars in new taxes. Republicans believe that would kill job creation and economic recovery. In the long run, a strong economy producing more wealth (and, therefore, more tax revenue) is how we will both reduce the deficit and regain the prosperity that all Americans deserve.

The writers are the Republican members of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction. Jon Kyl is a senator from Arizona. Rob Portman is a senator from Ohio. Pat Toomey is a senator from Pennsylvania. Jeb Hensarling is a representative from Texas. Fred Upton and Dave Camp are representatives from Michigan.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; congress; defense; obama; supercommittee; taxes
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I am starting to think the Dems had unreasonable demands because they really wanted to supercommittee to fail specifically to cut defense -- Obama already said that he would veto any attempt to change that, even though his own SecDef is raising the alarm about the results of the draconian automatic defense cuts.

And the Dems will blame the Republicans, they are already doing that.

1 posted on 11/25/2011 7:17:37 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

The Dem’s wanted it to fail the day they agreed to this stupid committee. I can’t believe the GOP even agreed to it to start with.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 7:24:07 PM PST by Qwackertoo (New Day In America November 03, 2010)
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I heard that bets were placed and the odds were 10 to 1 that they had no intentions of every coming up with plan. This is what gov’t always does...pass the buck.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 7:27:25 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Innovative

The “super committee” failed because the goal was to raise the statutory debt limit without having to cut spending. Mission Accomplished. So don’t be fooled by the rhetoric from either side. Your masters in Washington are quite satisfied with the outcome. The looting continues and the public still does not understand why.


4 posted on 11/25/2011 7:27:49 PM PST by trek
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To: Qwackertoo

“I can’t believe the GOP even agreed to it to start with.”

I also had a real problem with the GOP agreeing to this.

Article in Aviation Week:

Congress Fails, Defense Pays

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&id=news/awst/2011/11/28/AW_11_28_2011_p22-397722.xml&headline=Congress%20Fails,%20Defense%20Pays

Last week’s failure by the so-called Super Committee to find at least $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction means that the Pentagon’s budget will automatically begin to be slashed by $600 billion over 10 years starting in January 2013. But the committee’s failure will begin reverberating across the industry almost immediately - possibly taking out the nation’s biggest weapon system - the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).

While lawmakers such as Senate Armed Services ranking member John McCain (R-Ariz.) and House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) have vowed to intervene to stop the automatic cuts, the Obama administration has threatened to veto a reversal. If the Budget Control Act (BCA) remains in effect, the Pentagon - which plans its future budgets years in advance - will be faced with the prospect of submitting a fiscal 2013 budget by February that assumes the maximum level of cuts. And that means contractors could face terminations of signature weapon programs that may, or may not, come to pass.”


5 posted on 11/25/2011 7:28:53 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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donks are always blameing someone else. Nothing is ever their fault.
But most people know that


6 posted on 11/25/2011 7:32:19 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Qwackertoo

“I can’t believe the GOP even agreed to it to start with.”

Boehner made a boner.


7 posted on 11/25/2011 7:35:27 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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No surprise there I knew the leftist on the committee was going to do that. Patty Murray acted surprised they couldn’t come to an agreement! Patty You are stupid!!!!!


8 posted on 11/25/2011 7:39:46 PM PST by tallyhoe
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The Republicans are also at fault for the defense cuts. They knew perfectly well what was going to happen in this committee (deadlocked, so the automatic cuts would be triggered) and they allowed this farce to begin in the first place when they agreed to these "terms".

The federal government is the problem. Congress is entrenched and serve only their own interests. The marxist in the white house is overjoyed at the upcoming defense cuts.

9 posted on 11/25/2011 7:42:15 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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The Super-Doofer Committee was destined to fail the moment Lurch was named as a member. He has a worse record for accomplishment than Obama (less than zero). The “kept man” hardly ever shows up for work and virtually never introduces a bill that he authored. The only documents he’s ever written were the after action reports that got him his medals; wasn’t he in Vietnam?


10 posted on 11/25/2011 7:43:54 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: Qwackertoo

“The Dem’s wanted it to fail.”

Yes this has been ‘rope a dope’ from the start.


11 posted on 11/25/2011 7:44:26 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Innovative

Anybody who concurs with Democrats either refuse to investigate their positions or simply are extortioners, liars and/or thieves. They have no socially redeeming value.


12 posted on 11/25/2011 7:47:21 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: rockinqsranch

“I can’t believe the GOP even agreed to it to start with.”

Boehner made a boner.


There are few things in life that are certain.

Death.... Taxes.... the GOP getting played by the rats like Charlie Brown kicking Lucy’s football.


13 posted on 11/25/2011 7:51:43 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: Innovative

I thought it failed because the Republicans wouldn’t allow their rich cronies to suffer tax increases. /s


14 posted on 11/25/2011 7:54:56 PM PST by umgud
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Whatsa matter, you republicans?

We're offering you a 50/50 deal.

We'll cut the budget a trillion, you give a trillion in taxes.

NO?

to the press” The republicans will not compromise! Reelect Obama...

15 posted on 11/25/2011 7:59:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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Whatsa matter, you republicans?

We're offering you a 50/50 deal.

We'll cut the budget a trillion, you give a trillion in taxes.

NO?

to the press” The republicans will not compromise! Reelect Obama...

16 posted on 11/25/2011 8:00:28 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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Whatsa matter, you republicans?

We're offering you a 50/50 deal.

We'll cut the budget a trillion, you give a trillion in taxes.

NO?

to the press” The republicans will not compromise! Reelect Obama...

17 posted on 11/25/2011 8:00:51 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=newt+gingrich+super+committee&tnr=21&vid=1357558449369&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D1357558449369%26id%3Dc022ab30a748a0b8c9e9560e0203f255%26bid%3DdWpv5JxIzzD0Fg%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.youtube.com%252fwatch%253fv%253drN8GPQgIusc&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrN8GPQgIusc&sigr=11a1qco6m&newfp=1&tit=Newt+Gingrich%3A+Super+Committee+Is+Washington%26%2339%3Bs+Dumbest+Idea


18 posted on 11/25/2011 8:03:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=newt+gingrich+super+committee&tnr=21&vid=1357558449369&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D1357558449369%26id%3Dc022ab30a748a0b8c9e9560e0203f255%26bid%3DdWpv5JxIzzD0Fg%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.youtube.com%252fwatch%253fv%253drN8GPQgIusc&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrN8GPQgIusc&sigr=11a1qco6m&newfp=1&tit=Newt+Gingrich%3A+Super+Committee+Is+Washington%26%2339%3Bs+Dumbest+Idea


19 posted on 11/25/2011 8:03:44 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=newt+gingrich+super+committee&tnr=21&vid=1357558449369&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D1357558449369%26id%3Dc022ab30a748a0b8c9e9560e0203f255%26bid%3DdWpv5JxIzzD0Fg%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.youtube.com%252fwatch%253fv%253drN8GPQgIusc&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrN8GPQgIusc&sigr=11a1qco6m&newfp=1&tit=Newt+Gingrich%3A+Super+Committee+Is+Washington%26%2339%3Bs+Dumbest+Idea


20 posted on 11/25/2011 8:04:03 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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