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May 2011: Tancredo says "Ron Paul now supports amnesty" [Gingrich plan copies Paul's)
World Net Daily ^ | May 14, 2011 | Tom Tancredo

Posted on 11/25/2011 9:41:29 AM PST by Notwithstanding

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Gingrich and Paul seem to have very similar views on immigration. In fact, Gingrich's recent debate statements seem to pulled from Paul's own statements, including Paul's 2011 book.

You can read Ron Paul's statements on immigration issues here: http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

1 posted on 11/25/2011 9:41:32 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

I have to disagree with your statement about Newt. He simply wants to open serious discussion about illegals. Putting it off will only increase the problem.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 9:46:24 AM PST by RC2
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Paul says deporting illegal immigrants will require "splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades." .

When we convict someone of a crime
and send them to Jail,
are we breaking up a family ?

Fatuous logic !


3 posted on 11/25/2011 9:46:56 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I can tell you right now that deporting ilegals who have been here for years isn’t going to happen.

We can cry, and moand and scream our heads off, but they are not going to be deported.

If we can get rid of the criminal element and close the borders that is about the best we can hope for.

Catch a drunk driver that is illegal he should be gone even if he has 50 years here.Criminal offenses, the same.Anyone who thinks any of these candidates is going to deport long time illegals is dreaming.
Even if a president wanted to he couldn’t do it. The Congress won’t let him. A Republican led congress won’t do it. Ity aint going to happen.

Getting rid of Obamacare and closing the border is my main objective in voting for a candidate.


4 posted on 11/25/2011 9:52:27 AM PST by Venturer
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Oh Lord. He didn't say that during this alien lover speech. He didn't say anything about having an open discussion. He said that if you are here 25 years and have a family we cannot send them back because that would be against family values. As if this chump can talk about family values. Hypocrite. Anyway, I really wish he would do something about the double chin. He was on TV today and it looked ridiculous.
5 posted on 11/25/2011 9:53:06 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Notwithstanding

I must be heartless because I don’t have a problem with “splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades.”

They have lived here illegally for decades. Not to conflate the two, but when people who are wanted for crimes committed years ago are identified, they’re required to face justice. Is being forced to face the consequences of coming to this country illegally that much different?

I realize as a practical matter it’s probably not ever going to happen, but I can’t understand why we would ignore, or even do things that minimize or reward prior illegal acts.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 9:56:31 AM PST by bigbob
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Since there'll be no mass deportations, how about we just stop rewarding them for breaking our laws. No free medical, no free education, no free food, no vote, no home ownership.

Would that be doable?

7 posted on 11/25/2011 9:56:49 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Notwithstanding

How nice to see the name Tancredo again! I wonder who he would endorse for Republican candidate?


8 posted on 11/25/2011 10:00:49 AM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: skeeter

Would that be doable?

I don’t know, but I am sure all for it.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 10:00:57 AM PST by Venturer
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Two things ~

FIRST ~ thanks to modern forms of transportation and communication getting deported doesn't break up families.

SECOND THING ~ it's not punishment to get shipped back to Mexico! In fact, that's one of the better places on Earth that any human being can live in.

Most everywhere else is much worse!

10 posted on 11/25/2011 10:01:35 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Notwithstanding

Newt still hasn’t gone as far left as Paul, calling a border fence a Berlin Wall too keep citizens in.


11 posted on 11/25/2011 10:02:23 AM PST by mnehring
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That’s what I was trying to say. At least no rewards, and ideally some consequences for the previous sins. I’d even be OK with a time limit, like no home ownership for 10 years or something, some kind of penalty short of kicking them out of the country.

Lady Liberty may accept the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, but no free cookies for those who don’t follow the rules,


12 posted on 11/25/2011 10:06:01 AM PST by bigbob
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To: RC2

I posted the Paul stuff not because I think it is true.

I posted it to show how stupid the anti-Newt feeding frenzy is.

I don’t think Paul supports amnesty.

I don’t think Newt supports amnesty.

At present I favor Newt as being a proven conservative fighter, well-vetted, a leader, competent, and electable.

I no longer think that is true of:
Cain due to his melting under the spotlight, of
Bachmann as she doesn’t possess the necessary aura of leadership, and
Santorum because he consistently has trouble attracting support from voters.

Mittens can’t be trusted.

Mittens junior (is it Huntsman?) strikes everyone as a rich kid with nothing better to do than run for governor and president.

Paul is too odd to lead the nation and most of his sound bite solutions are not plausible.

And Johnson makes penis jokes on television (”Do I have a grip on this DICK?”) while running for president (he repeated the joke several times while on Red Eye on Nov. 17, 2011). What do you expect from a Johnson?


13 posted on 11/25/2011 10:07:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
As if paul was a serious person.
14 posted on 11/25/2011 10:18:56 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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I don’t think Paul is a serious person.
I simply don’t like the anti-Newt feeding frenzy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2812264/posts?page=13#13


15 posted on 11/25/2011 10:22:57 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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Dang, just add amnesty by a different name, that is what everyone want when they start talking deporting. If they have no jobs, and no government hand out they will go home.
16 posted on 11/25/2011 10:24:23 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Venturer
It happened under Eisenhower.

It was called "Operation Wetback"


17 posted on 11/25/2011 10:26:55 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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"I simply don’t like the anti-Newt feeding frenzy."

On illegal immigration it is an entirely self inflicted wound. He saw what happened to Perry when Perry stepped in it. He saw conservatives sit a home rather then vote McCain largely because of this issue. So what does Newt do? Steps right into it and likely loses all the momentum he had going for him. Really stupid Newt, really really stupid.

18 posted on 11/25/2011 10:29:28 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Notwithstanding
No amnesty is a basic conservative tenet...you are for amnesty in any way, shape or form, you are not a conservative candidate. IMHO
19 posted on 11/25/2011 10:36:12 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

When we convict someone of a crime and send them to Jail, are we breaking up a family? Fatuous logic
I would have said "tenuous" to be polite, but really, "fallacious" fits best IMHO. Families that think it nothing to break the law are not good families anyhow.
20 posted on 11/25/2011 10:39:00 AM PST by Olog-hai
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