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You establish a definition and then exclude those who don’t fit that definition.

Except I didn't establish the definition. The definition was established by thousands of religious authorities and documents relating to Islam.

If the Pope and entire religious hierarchy of the Catholic church says that abortion is a sin, and they back it up with scriptural references that appear to any intelligent observer to say the same, then some one who is pro-abortion cannot be considered an "observant" Catholic. They can say they are, but they are not, by any objective definition. Ditto that in spades for muslims...

I'm sorry, but the modern liberal mantra of "self-identification" doesn't fly here on Free Republic. You can "self-identify" as a girl if you are born a boy... but you've still got a Y chromosome. Either you fit the criteria, or not. Either you follow the Quran (in all its malevolence), or not. Eventually, everyone has to choose whether they are something, and face the consequences of those decisions, or they must reject them. Your "moderate" Muslim friends can only be moderate because they live in the western world. Once the critical mass is reached and Sharia is established, they'll be happily burning you at the stake (or on the stake next to you)...

Your argument simply fails the reality test. Whether Catholic or Muslim, there’s a wide range of belief regarding what constitutes being a member of that group. You’ve taken a narrow set of characteristics and tried to apply them to an entire group, some members of which disagree with your definition. If I find 100 Catholics or Muslims who vigorously and reasonably claim to be a member of that faith, but who do not share the characteristics you ascribe, then certainly there must be a million more and your definition must be questioned.

Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 7:07:45 PM by engrpat
Received this in a email today. Thought I would pass it on for everyone's information....(from a soon to be released major work - see book credit at end)

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non- Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.....www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

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