Posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:26 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
(ENGLISH TRANSLATION): US Presidential Candidate Newt Gingrich, Republican, For The Regularization of Immigration Status for Millions" In the Al Momento Noticias by El Molino - 11/23/2011 8:36 AM
Two things became clear after the conclusion of the eleventh televised debate of Republican candidates, that Newt Gingrich is emerging in the polls, Mitt Romney moving to, and that he understands the importance of the Latino vote in United States to reach the White House in 2012.
Last night, risking the wrath of the Tea Party rightwing who have set the tone on immigration in the debates, Gingrich took a position which he described as "humanitarian."
We reproduce his words, that rule this time there were the boos he received when Rick Perry also said many Republicans "have no heart" on the issue of immigration.
I do not understand how the party that claims to be the party of the family can take a position on immigration that destroys families who have been here a quarter century. And I'm prepared to accept criticism by saying, 'we are human to implement the law without giving them citizenship but finding a way to create no separate legal status for their families.' "
"I do not think that the people of United States going to take people who have been here a quarter century, who have children and grandchildren, who are part of the community who may have done something 25 years ago, separated from their families and drive them away.
"If you came recently, and you have no roots in this country, then you must go. But here is the point. But let's say the person has been here 25 years, has three children, two grandchildren, pays taxes, respects the law, is part of a local church - I do not think they're were are going to split up, cut and eject such a family.
"The Krieble Foundation has a magnificent red card program that says it can be legalized without being a path to citizenship. So we managed to have a country where there is no illegality, without any amnesty given automatically to anyone. "
Later Gingrich said:
"I want to tell the people, 'go home'. I want to create a border controlled. I want a guest worker program that can manage American Express, Visa or Mastercard. I want to make English the official language of government. I am willing to be rigid. But I will not pull on somebody's hair and tease them. And I can not imagine any serious person in this country who believes that we must destroy families who have been here 20 or 25 years."
Newt Gingrich has spoken in favor of some aspects of the DREAM Act, which would give citizenship to people who came to the United States without documentation of children.
Were Gingrich to get the Republican nomination, this new political perspective poses serious problems for the reelection of President Barack Obama not long ago who said his "strategy" is to get the Latino vote would only reproduce extracts from comments of the Republican candidates on immigration.
You do realize you’re talking about fellow human beings, right?
>>Any time ANY ONE breaks any law, there has to be some form of punishment meted out. Otherwise we become a lawless society.<<
Yes, that’s right, and we became a lawless society when we quit enforcing the border. Got that? WE quit enforcing the border. Then, when we quit enforcing it, reasonable people said, hey, what the hell, they’re letting us in and the pay is good...let’s go. And now, they’re the ones being made to pay.
Please don’t misunderstand me. I think they’re here illegally and they need to either go back or be subjected to reasonable requirements to stay here legally. But we created this problem, and they took advantage of it. Too many people think the immigrants are the sole culprits in all of this, but they overlook our own part in it, and our own part was instrumental in creating the situation in the first place.
And now we want to penalize the children...might as well send all the Irish back too...no statute of limitations in this crowd...
I am against the anchor babies getting tax payer supported benefits, also.
By your thinking, it is OK to go into a bank and rob it because the doors were open. Why blame the robber, the entrance door was not protected.
They are human, but I am not their brother. They feel the same about me and all others of my tribe. Cannibals and pedophiles may be human,, but that does not mean I have to tolerate them infesting my country like vermin.
I said that they “would be treated like migrant immigrants.”
I never said anything like “migrants immigrants.”
They are here legally, and have been for many years.
“If you are confusing those with legal farm workers, those people have papers saying what they are, we have 14 different programs for seasonal farm workers.”
THAT IS THE POINT!
I’m not confusing anything.
You are being obtuse.
“If they are given legal status they automatically become eligible to apply for citizenship.”
Have you ever heard of a green card? That does not automatically make one eligible for citizenship.
We’ve had green cards for many, many years.
FWIW, Newt is saying that there is a middle ground.
They will be allowed to work, but won’t be afforded the freedoms and protection that citizenship allows.
Thank you!
Thank you, too!
Green card...it’s been here for decades.
Citizenship is not a qualifier, nor is it likely probable.
Citizenship is not necessary for it to be amnesty. Gingrich is proposing amnesty and amnesty is not a conservative position. No thanks.
Immigrants who posses a green card and have been in the US for 5 years become eligible for citizenship through the process if naturalization.
“Some invaders probably don’t even want citizenship.”
The illegals don’t care one whit about citizenship.
“But if they are afforded legal status, as opposed to the illegal status they have now, that is amnesty.”
No, it’s not. We’ve had LEGAL migrant workers for years.
Caesar Chavez was a ringleader WRT illegal immigration...he was against it.
“Gingrich is proposing amnesty...”
No, he is not.
If it involves letting the illegal aliens stay here, it’s amnesty.
“Immigrants who posses a green card and have been in the US for 5 years become eligible for citizenship through the process if naturalization.”
Why would you be against someone who plays by the rules to gain citizenship?
First...they have to get the green card.
They aren’t coming here illegally.
You keep falling for that citizenship line as if it were somehow relevant to this discussion; it's not. One need not be given citizenship for it to be amnesty. You can grasp that simple concept, can't you?
No, it’s not. We’ve had LEGAL migrant workers for years.
What a kooky thing to say. We're talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, not those who came here legally.
Caesar Chavez was a ringleader WRT illegal immigration...he was against it.
Try to stay focused. Chavez has been dead for years and plays no part in this debate.
Boy...does no one here have migrant workers in their area?
No...they won’t be on loan unless they want to be on loan.
They come here to work, not be be citizens. Migrant workers have companies here who take care of them and they aren’t here illegally.
Sheesh...
You can post it a third time and you still don’t understand.
Migrant workers are here LEGALLY.
They’ve jumped through all of the hoops, and have answered all of the questions.
They don’t want to be American citizens...they just want to work.
They have been hurt, jobwise, by the illegals who have invaded.
I have never said I opposes those with green cards gaining citizenship. You said, Have you ever heard of a green card? That does not automatically make one eligible for citizenship." And I commented on what is required for one to gain citizenship. Do I opposes ILLEGAL aliens getting citizenship? Absolutely.
First...they have to get the green card. They aren’t coming here illegally.
Stay focused. We were talking about those who HAVE come here ILLEGALLY.
No...the class of legal migrant workers has been here for years. They choose to do what it takes to qualify for that status.
Illegals, OTOH, don’t want to jump through those hoops.
Newt is not circumventing the law. In fact, he’s following it.
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