Posted on 11/24/2011 7:46:28 PM PST by Fred
Speaking for myself, I've been against Newt since the START of the primary campaign and I have little doubt most of the other people on this board who are anti-Newt also ruled him out early on. Two months ago, conservatives rightly realized Newt was a joke and not a credible Presidential candidate. This guy had the worst campaign roll-out of any candidate with all his major staffers quitting on him, his Tiffany's scandal, and his insane press releases. Now apparently some freepers have decided this awful 90's retread is the conservative savior because he debates good. Well, he's not, and we're going to step up to the plate and tell the truth about him until conservatives stop supporting this fraud. There's no evil shadowy conspiracy to "eliminate" conservatives, just to eliminate PHONY conservatives. I've been against Jon Huntsman since day one as well, if he starts surging in the polls next week and you guys begin fawning over him as "the ONLY conservative with the guts to take on Obama", I'll go after him too. Deal with it.
>> The jackass conservative wing is either playing into the hands of Romney or covertly working for Romney. 6 weeks and they’re trying to destroy all viable conservative alternatives to Romney. <<
Again, if it's "the same" people going after "all viable conservative alternatives to Romney", show me where all of us were bashing Cain and Bachmann as RINOs? You can't because there is no nutty conspiracy from Romney people. In fact, Romney shills aren't even allowed on FR. No doubt Romney's stradegy is to divide the conservative opposition to him and conquer, but ironically the people who puff up losers like Perry and Newt are helping contribute to that by wasting time and money on non-starters who aren't conservative. Stop having these frauds suckup all the airtime and we could focus our energy on supporting a real conservative capable of beating Romney one-on-one.
>> Show me 100’s of posts a day “vetting” Rick Santorum. It can’t be done. Jackass conservatives are donkey-crosses. <<
If Santorum surged to the top of the polls, he'd be subject to endless scuntity too. I don't know why you think it's a conspiracy that the candidate doing best gets the most focus. The difference is Santorum "vetting" would show he doesn't just talk the talk but he walks the walk. Aside from being pressured to support Arlen Specter during one primary in his career, his record in office has been pretty solid. That's the difference between him and frauds like Newt. When a DECENT conservative rises to the top, you didn't see people call Herman Cain "open borders Herman" because he doesn't suck up to illegals like the frauds. Hence, Bachmann and Cain were subject to other attacks like "she's a crazy bible-thumping zealot" and "a bunch of women say he harassed them". You couldn't go after them on the issues because their positions were pretty much solid.
>> Another jackass conservative (donkey-cross) attacking a viable conservative candidate and leading to the nomination of Romney. <<
No, the freepres who drooled over dopes like Perry were attacking viable conservative candidates and leading to the nomination of Romney. Don't blame me, I warned his entry would just muddy up the field with more choices and split the conservative vote more. If you want to "beat Romney", maybe you could tell Perry and Newt to pack it up and stop wasting conservatives time with needless sideshows. How is that having endless "conservative" wannabes in the race together will help "beat Romney"?
>> The CONSERVATIVES are: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, Cain. That’s it. Look at their positions and their long term beliefs and how they’ve governed. All are pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Guns, pro-American exceptionalism, pro-fiscal solvency and sanity, pro-Military, pro-active defense, and pro-Individual versus Government. I am supporting Santorum/Cain/Gingrich/Perry/Bachmann, and if it comes to Paul versus Romney, then Paul. <<
Perry and Gingrich are not good conservatives. They may know how to throw red meat to the crowd and ACT conservative to win votes, but they sure don't govern that way. Perry can yap all he wants about he hates big government and is gonna take a sledgehammer to Washington, it won't change the fact he doubled the budget of Texas government in 10 years and raised taxes. Gingrich can beat his chest all he wants about standing up to the media, it won't change the fact he sat on the couch with Nancy, trashed Paul Ryan, and pimped Dede Scozzafava. AGAIN - If you sell these frauds as conservatives and convince a bunch of freepers to support them, you're only splitting the conservative vote and making it easier for Romney to get the nod.
>> I have supported each and every conservative who was in the lead to unseat Romney. But then his agents and or stooges (or Obama’s?) bring out the long knives and cut them down. <<
Ah, so your strategy is to the support the flavor of the week. How's that working out for you? President Trump taking office any time soon?
>> Wake up and quit knifing conservatives. <<
Wake up and quit claiming backstabbing GOP establishment insiders are "conservatives"
>> I am supporting in order: Anybody but Romney, Anybody but Romney and Anybody but Romney. In a winner take all primary I support the following: The guy most likely to beat Romney, the guy most likely to beat Romney and the guy most likely to beat Romney. <<
So if Huntsman is the next guy to surge to the top of the polls, you'll vote for him just to "stop Romney". You wouldn't mind a guy even MORE liberal than Romney getting the nomination as long as his name isn't "Romney"? That makes no sense. In 2008, FReeper's no. #1 target was Giuliani. We managed to "stop Giulaini" but we got McCain instead. Do you think that was a victory for conservatism?
>> It is unproductive using bandwidth to cut him down. In the end such destructive rhetoric does nothing but help Romney. <<
Au contair, if these dopes take the hint and go home, it helps defeat Romney by eliminating the weak sisters in the race and leaving conservatives with better options. But if you wanna vote for Newt thinking it will "stop Romney", suit yourself. Don't say you weren't warned.
>> I have nothing critical to say about Cain, Bachmann or Santorum other than the fact that they are falling in the polls and probably aren't in any position to win the nomination. The three most likely candidates are Romney, Gingrich and Perry. Unfortunately it is in that order. <<
Perry is "likely" to win the nomination? Are you looking at data from 2 months ago? Last time I checked, Cain is in 3rd with around 15% while Perry is around 5th/6th place with 6%. Only in some alternative universe is Perry in a better position to win the nomination than Cain.
>> The point is to assassinate everyone who isn’t Herman Cain. EVERYONE is a traitor, RINO, Liberal, Pro-Amnesty, blah blah blah blah blah except Herman Cain. Only Cain can save us! ONLY CAIN!!!! CAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You’re spot on. It’s a small group of persistent, Cainsterical apostles who don’t care a lick about truth or debate or “vetting,” just about smearing everyone who isn’t Herman Cain. <<
Another irony... while there are plenty of intelligent Cain supporters that can't stand Gingrich (most of which post on threads like this), there's also a great deal of Cain supporters on FR who are in love with Newt. In fact, they did a poll a while back and he seems to be the top "second choice" on their short list. Much to my dismay, I've seen alot of freepers swooning over the thought of a "Cain/Gingrich" ticket and claiming it's their "dream" scenario. Here's a thread today where at least 3 Cain supporters are talking up having Newt on the ticket . I haven't seen any of Bachmann or Santorum supporters drool over a "Bachmann/Gingrich" ticket or a "Santorum/Gingrich" ticket (or any of the other candidate supporters for that matter... even though Newt seems to be Perry's soul mate of late... Pretty boy with terrible speaking skills / Ugly boy with great oratory skills that share the same outlook). The fact there's a large segment of Cain supporters in love with Newt has actually lowered Cain's standing in my eyes, which is why I'd still prefer Bachmann or Santorum over him. But it certainly shows that TitansAFC is wrong when he foams at the mouth that all the Cain people believe in "ONLY CAIN!!!" and are out to "DESTORYYYYYYYY!!!" everyone else.
just as long as hes only being ‘humane’ and doesnt call me ‘heartless’ it all good...BWAHAHAHAH...
forgot to add...whenever others break ‘the law’ for any reason, the goobermint typically could care less if it hurts my family, even if it comes down to ‘breaking us up’ by tossing members in jail for petty traffic crap...but julio gets a literal pass because juan jr might be hurt ???
When the great Romneybot purge happened, Romney’s supporters were bound to try and get their revenge. Sadly, longtime freepers are falling for the circular firing squad invitations which result in Romney by default. The other outcome is more sinister than even that: conservatives, after going through this circular firing squad will be less likely to fire up and vote, and the continual trashing of freepers by freepers has destory any momentum FR had to get a Rpeublican elected over little barry. [I don’t even wear the asbestos undies anymore. I’ve become immune to their flaming flatulence. Which should arrive any minute now, since I’ve called them out.]
Some of those warts are too nasty to dismiss.
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