Posted on 11/23/2011 9:28:58 PM PST by South40
And you didn’t either?!
The media will definitely go after Romney and will likely highlight his flip-flopping in order to deflate his support among conservatives. I think Romney could beat Obama, but only if he gives the justifiably skeptical conservatives a genuine reason to be enthusiastic about his campaign. He’s talking a somewhat good game now, but I think he’s more likely to shift to the “centre” as soon as he gets the nomination on the fallacious belief that he needs to appeal to independents. Romney needs to appeal to conservatives or he’ll suffer the same fate as McCain.
Newt’s RINOism goes back to the 1968 Nelson A. Rockefeller campaign, or was it even earlier? He was first eligible to vote in 1963, two years after his first marriage. I don’t think people believe in Newton; they just can’t agree on an alternative.
Six years ago Tommy being anti amnesty got one zotted here and called racist and anti latino or anti brown folks if you pushed too hard.
If folks now are so keyed up about mass deportation as the pivotal issue then they should draft Buchanan whom I like on culture btw but who has the most draconian illegals solutions.
Note that Sarah Palin has exactly the same stance as Newt and endorsed McCain over Hayworth yet she gets a pass.
Rubio the second most touted almost ran here is opposes Alabama and Arizona laws...which Newt supports...yet he gets no negatives here over that.
hence...like I said...for most it’s not about facts...here it’s about Cain...or less likely Perry...both of whom relatively speaking ape the same stance as Newt except Perry signed in state tuition for illegals...something Newt has not
Rubio is the most dreamed about candidate here besides Palin.
Yet neither he who is more pro amnesty than Newt gets criticized.
And she who is pretty much the same as Newt on the topic is still veritably worshipped.
hence...like I said..again...it’s because Newt ain’t Cain and the forum is now vested in Cain like it was Sarah
and it ain’t gonna happen
Newt or Mitt you pick
that is what I’m doing...
ideologically I prefer Bachamnn but she ain’t got “it”
hard for a woman to have “it”
Palin did in spades but something spooked her
Congress nor the citizenry would let them go full bore.
Best we can do is hope to start catching the newer onews with no roots.
Going door to door is crazy....even most conservatives would wince and women and babies thrown on buses.
What Newt proposed was a database to account for them and make decision and know who they are so we can draw some distinction for who is allowed to apply for legal guest permit and deported.
he did not say amnesty
some will get it eventually...no question of that or at least their kids will
meanwhile close the door and enforce would help more than anything
lOOK OUT!
You’re being rational again.
“You would vote for the abortion flip-flopper?”
If the choices were Obama and Romney, I would certainly vote for Romney. Are you saying you would refuse to vote and thereby subject America to four more years of Obama just so you could preen in front of the mirror bragging to yourself abour how you never voted for the “abortion flip-flopper?”
I will never vote for an abortion candidate. Ever. I have to answer for my actions someday, and that won’t be one of them.
You are obviously morally deficient.
On shoot, just noticed that. Sorry. I kept clicking post and nothing would happen. Obviously I was wrong!
I’m not supporting Romney in the primary, but if he is the candidate not voting for him is a help to Obama—a man who is fanatically pro abortion, so much so in the Illinois State Senate he was the only one to vote AGAINST the Born Alive Act, a bill to protect babies who survive abortion. He even defended an Illinois hospital that threw an aborted baby that survived into a closet to die. Let’s face it, Romney took the pro choice position to win in a deep blue state when he ran for Senate. We can be disgusted with that all day long, but in the end Mormons believe abortion is an evil practice for which you can be excommunicated. Romney is pro life now, if he really ever was pro abortion. Shouldn’t we judge on what he is NOW instead of what he use to be? Reagan was once a Democrat but never would you think of him as a Democrat.
I enjoy your posts and generally agree with you, but a slight nit pick on this.
Newt was doing great, had momentum and was winning conservatives over. I was heavily leaning Newt but illegal immigration is a deal breaker for me and I suspect many other conservatives. Until we at least honestly try enforcing the laws we currently have plus controlling the boarder I don't want to hear about another plan. We were told in 1986 that this was a ONE TIME ONLY DEAL. Newt knew better then to go there (illegal immigration) he is solely responsible for the very predictable results. Did he not see what happened to Perry? How stupid can Newt be? Well everyone was waiting for Newts' mouth to get him in serious trouble, the wait is over. And yes Romney is the big winner here.
My only hope of supporting Newt again is if he walks this back big time and fast in a believable manner.
At least we learn this before the primaries. See ya, Newt!
The founders meant equal before God. As to Gingrich immigration plan, I like it.
One was a Muslim immigrant and friends replacing the roof on his house oblivious to the national holiday. The other was a group of about 15 illegals and their families celebrating with a large dinner on their patio complete with a kids table.
I'm not sure what it means but I'd rather have family oriented Christian Catholics, than legal Muslim immigrants trying to force change to our country and beliefs. Looking at our present fertility rates and what it means to any free nation is a bit unsettling. We'll need immigrants for the future. Newt is proposing a way to make the illegals legal without citizenship or voting rights.
Give it some thought.
ILLEGAL aliens have broken our immigration laws and deserve no reward. If you believe they do you are on the wring side of the debate.
I respect your opinion. Do you have a realistic solution for the current 20 million illegals here now?
I don't but Newt's made the most sense to me.
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