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Navy to lay off 3,000 mid-career sailors
US News/MSNBC ^ | 11/23/11 | Lea Sutton, KNSD

Posted on 11/23/2011 1:29:22 PM PST by Nachum

SAN DIEGO -- Imagine joining the Navy ten years ago with a career in mind. Now, sailors with that career plan are getting pink slips as the military looks for places to save money.

Since June, 16,000 mid-career sailors have been waiting to find out if they will be forced out early.

Last week, the Navy began its layoffs when the first of two rounds of personnel cuts were announced.

Read the original story at nbcsandiego.com

"Nobody ever wants to pass this sort of bad news to somebody," said Captain Winton Smith, Naval Station San Diego's commanding officer. "It's a very difficult thing for any commanding officer to sit down with a hard charger and to tell them to prepare for the next chapter of their life.”

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KEYWORDS: lay; military; navy; off; sailors
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Can we impeach him now? A little bit?
1 posted on 11/23/2011 1:29:26 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 11/23/2011 1:30:06 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Been that way for several years now.

Word has been out for some time (at least 4 years) that any mid-level enlisted with “Problems” would be gone.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 1:31:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Nachum

Some might be involuntarily discharged but many will find other career fields to move to and some of the lesser performing members will be the ones getting let go.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 1:34:23 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad

If they can stay as a federal employee, doesn’t their retirement keep accruing?


5 posted on 11/23/2011 1:37:09 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Nachum
But on another thread, we see evidence of a federally subsidized "artists community" in New York.

Hmmm...

Our government's priorities are FUBAR.

6 posted on 11/23/2011 1:37:51 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Nachum

Obama is either stupid

or he adheres to communism

or both

http://news.yahoo.com/medvedev-russia-may-target-missile-defense-sites-123047622.html


7 posted on 11/23/2011 1:37:55 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Nachum

Do these count as “Saved and or Created” jobs?


8 posted on 11/23/2011 1:38:35 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Nachum; Bender2

Um....layoffs? The military doesn’t do layoffs. More like...you, you and you. Get out.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 1:39:01 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Nachum
1973, our commanding officer was literally crying when he “laid off” every Co grade reservist except two. One of them got hit the next week (an oversight) and the other stayed on. (He'd called in the ACLU, some congresstoads, and probably the Pope to complain about being mistreated, we assumed the Army was afraid to RIF him as a result).
10 posted on 11/23/2011 1:39:12 PM PST by norton
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To: Gadsden1st

Nope! Totally separate from snivel (civil) service.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 1:40:20 PM PST by P3_Acoustic
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To: Gadsden1st

I really don’t know. The fed has been playing with retirement regs to the point I’ve lost track. I suspect it does.


12 posted on 11/23/2011 1:42:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

not to mention the MILLIONS spent on Michelle Obama’s endless vacations!!!


13 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:00 PM PST by a real Sheila (golden retrievers rule!)
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To: Nachum

Bad wording. Active duty people aren’t laid off, they are denied reenlistment or are granted early release. But that aside...

This happens periodically. It happened back in 1983 or 1984, can’t remember which. We had our normal summer increase in discharges, plus a sweep of substandard performers, plus a 90 day early release. We had record books stacked on every flat surface of the separations center. Those were some LONG nights just trying to keep up.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:08 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Um....layoffs? The military doesn’t do layoffs. More like...you, you and you. Get out.

ROFL!!! Yep. That’s about it.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:42 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Gadsden1st

Yes if they can find a position open for them.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 1:44:00 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: CodeToad

You got that right, and it isn’t just the Navy.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 1:45:28 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: P3_Acoustic

I had a cousin that went from the Navy to the US Corps of Engineer as a Lock Master. That was in the 60’s. Thirty years and out. Sweet job and retirement.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 1:47:32 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

I don’t remember the accrument figures, but there is some consideration in Federal Service for Military time. It’s not one for one. They used to allow a portion of Military time to be tacked onto the maximum hiring age. For example, if the maximum hiring age was 35, Military time would raise that to say, 40-45. Retirements are seperate. Unless you have twenty good years, you have nothing but points that can be continued in the Guard or Reserve. Someone with 10-12 years active, then joins the Guard or Reserve for enough to get twenty, will see a very decent additional retirement at age 65. These are some the infamous Federal double dippers which, I have no problem with.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 1:47:58 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Nachum

The plain truth is that the military has always cut people in overmanned ratings and people who are poor performers. The military is not like being a union school teacher thug with lifetime guaranteed employment. This “report” is trash.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 1:49:07 PM PST by pabianice (")
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