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The Gingrich Amnesty
NRO ^ | Nov 23, 2011 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 11/23/2011 7:34:31 AM PST by heiss

Missed the debate because of wrestling practice, but it’s hardly surprising that Newt would support amnesty for illegal aliens. After the Pelosi global-warming ad and Dede Scozzafava and “right-wing social engineering,” is it any surprise he’d adopt the left’s line on immigration too? He earned a career grade of D from Numbers USA (they calculate back to 1989). Heck, even Barbara Boxer has a career grade of D+.

.. So the Gingrich Amnesty would cover illegal immigrants here when Congress passed IRCA. That is to say, it would pick up where the previous amnesty left off, legalizing precisely those people who didn’t qualify for IRCA. This just underlines what a chump you have to be to support any deal offered you by amnesty supporters.

Which is why “enforcement first” is the only way to go: consistent, unapologetic, across-the-board enforcement of the immigration law at our consulates overseas for visa applicants, at the borders, and inside the country, especially at the worksite — without preconditions or deals or grand bargains.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; gingrich; illegal; newt; rinoexpress
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To: heiss

Sadly you have told an untruth about Perry.

All:

PLEASE watch this video of Cavuto and Perry from 2010.
Listen to the TRUTH.

http://texasgopvote.com/2010-elections/texas-elections/governor-rick-perry-border-security-and-backdoor-amnesty-001842


41 posted on 11/23/2011 8:06:30 AM PST by marty60
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To: heiss
Why can’t we first enforce the laws and build a fence, and only then, if those have been successful, consider further actions?

Well obvious there isn't a willingness to enforce laws which are so complicated and full of burocricy that attorneys use every loop hole around them so they're tied up in ocurts for years.....that's why Newt did say the first order is to secure the border.

Newt...."I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with controlling the border,....“I do believe if you’ve been here recently and have no ties to the US, we should deport you...... I do believe we should control the border.... ...I do believe we should have very severe penalties for employers.

42 posted on 11/23/2011 8:06:42 AM PST by caww
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To: SuzyQue
I’ve seen a number of comments on FR this morning supporting the Newt position.

The lengths to which his new FR supporters will go to explain away his RINO record and to give him a pass on just about everything is astounding.

43 posted on 11/23/2011 8:07:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: heiss

Here is the process for deportation. http://immigration.lawyers.com/deportation/Deportation-and-Removal-Process.html Multiply by 12 mil.


44 posted on 11/23/2011 8:07:26 AM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Night Hides Not

Hey leave Tony Romo out of this!
He’s my QB!


45 posted on 11/23/2011 8:09:06 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: oh8eleven
See post 19 for a quick elucidation of Simpson-Mazzoli. It was not what you seem to think it was; and what Reagan signed, mostly did not happen. Newt was right about this.
46 posted on 11/23/2011 8:09:27 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lou Budvis

Why do we always get so much drama from you amnesty lovers? With you the choice can only be between deportation or amnesty because you want the amnesty. Any honest person knows there are more things we can do to make certain our immigration laws are obeyed and American citizens are protected. Self deportation as a method works so much better. Making life here so onerous for illegals that they voluntarily go back home is the way to go. That method has been used effectively in the past so we have a model to work from.

And the only reason there would be any problem with this is opposition from pandering amnesty lovers, illegals and the slimy, traitorous business owners who feed off of them.


47 posted on 11/23/2011 8:09:46 AM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Liz

When Mitt Romney is to the right of your “Conservative” candidate on a major issue like immigration, you have a problem.
__________________________________________

Say what ???????

Romney has never been right of anyone on so called “immigration”

Hes been lovin on the illegal aliens all along...

When hes not knowingly hiring them and then lying about it..

hes wanting to give them AMNESTY...

“We cant sent them all back”

“We’ve got to find a path to citizenship”

and his ignorance on the subject...

Last night he wanted to start giving LGAL IMMIGRANTS some kind of “card they can take to an employer so they can be hired”

HEY !!! Willie Mitty !!!

You’re late to the dance again as usual...

Thats already been done ...years ago..

It used to be called a green card because it was green..

I think its blue now...

Anyhoo its proper name is Alien Registration Card...

The number on this card is placed at the top right hand corner of the citizenship document when the IMMIGRANT becomes a US citizen...

and its not just “given” to an immigrant...

the immigrant doesnt apply for it AFTER they arrive in the US...

all the paperwork and requirements to use one is done in the immigrants home country...

BEFORE they ever leave home to come here...

Its automatic after they have been here 90 days..

They may not work UNTIL they recieve it...

Romney is so stuck on the illegal aliens and getting them AMNESTY and the DREAM Act...

he seems to have never studied what is involved with the processing of the REAL immigrants ...

This morning he needs to slap which ever handler gave him that “great idea” to mention during the debate..


48 posted on 11/23/2011 8:10:24 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Iron Munro

You know that if an illegal shows up at a hospital, ICE can’t just drive him to the airport and put him on a plane to oaxaca, right? Here’s the process - http://immigration.lawyers.com/deportation/Deportation-and-Removal-Process.html Multiply by 12 mil.


49 posted on 11/23/2011 8:10:37 AM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis
One reason it is not going to happen is that no one in a position of authority has ever proposed such a thing.
50 posted on 11/23/2011 8:11:04 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: caww

Isn’t the solution to improve the laws or regulations, rather than to give up to pro-illegals (”the Newt approach”)?

In recent days, I’d come to despise that pro-illegal panderer/adulterer. He is a good debater and would be ok VP (going to Sunday talk shows) but his judgement is horrible. He would no doubt push Amnesty and Global Warming Acts if here were in WH.


51 posted on 11/23/2011 8:11:10 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: heiss

Aside from Ron Paul who is the only choice, it’s beginning to look like Gov Perry is not only a lesser of evils, he is likely going to be the only lesser of evils!

Semper Watching!
*****


52 posted on 11/23/2011 8:11:14 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Lou Budvis

It doesn’t have to be mass forced deportation. stop the services for illegals, don’t allow them to live and work here and they will self deport. Mexico’s poor is Mexico’s problem.


53 posted on 11/23/2011 8:12:32 AM PST by Yaelle (Herman Cain: the clever conservative with cojones.)
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To: pyx

This is better to post as adhere’s to the Plan and the staus we are at today...not ten or fifteen years ago.

Newt said at the debate..and that with a plan....

....”I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with controlling the border,....“I do believe if you’ve been here recently and have no ties to the US, we should deport you...... I do believe we should control the border.... ...I do believe we should have very severe penalties for employers.


54 posted on 11/23/2011 8:13:26 AM PST by caww
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To: heiss
If there is reasonable threat that they can be deported, they would lose less services, and would be less likely to stay here (or enter here). When did American become “it can’t be done” country?

Everything you say is true.

When are you going to demonstrate the feasibility of what you want by winning an election? You know, just one.

55 posted on 11/23/2011 8:13:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Processes and rules can be changed. Many of these are just rules or guidelines. No hospital should be forced to pay for the care of illegals.


56 posted on 11/23/2011 8:14:39 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: Lou Budvis; Iron Munro
You know that if an illegal shows up at a hospital, ICE can’t just drive him to the airport and put him on a plane to oaxaca, right? Here’s the process - http://immigration.lawyers.com/deportation/Deportation-and-Removal-Process.html Multiply by 12 mil.

Hiding behind the current process isn't going to get it done.

That's an excuse, not a reason.

Laws are made to be changed, especially when they are wrong.

Otherwise, I guess we should just give up on Roe vs. Wade, right?

Or how about that Dred Scott decision by the Supreme Court, you know the one, where the The United States Supreme Court ruled seven to two against Scott, finding that neither he, nor any person of African ancestry, could claim citizenship in the United States, and therefore Scott could not bring suit in federal court under diversity of citizenship rule.

Yea, those laws are rock-solid, always correct, always moral, aren't they?!
57 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:03 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SuzyQue
I’ve seen a number of comments on FR this morning supporting the Newt position.

Likely the same exact ones who post the we must have total unquestionable party unity and vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is {Mitt included} threads. This of course in their eyes is so the liberals don't take over the White House. Newt will say or do anything needed for the publicity moment. Thus the reinvented Newt we have seen over the past couple of years.

He's new, he's interchangeable & comes complete with new accessories. There is Global Warming Newt. Compassionate to illegals Newt. Nancy's friend Newt. Conservative Newt. Just slide in the chip and then press play for the desired Newt position you can hear today. Media package included at no extra cost for this limited time offer. The I resign my position Newt available at a later date.

58 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:24 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lou Budvis

The executive branch is responsible for border security and INS and as far as I remember, Newt has never been in the executive branch of Government.

Mass deportation is unworkable and if there was such an exit - it would resemble the holocaust - the Media would be out in force at every train station and bus terminal. Rioting and a breakdown of civil order.

Full employment for attorneys is the engine for INS and this Administration’s failures.

The first effort by the next POTUS should be securing the borders and then to identify all existing illegal residents when applying for work, hospital care, welfare and unemployment benefits.


59 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:24 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: Jim Noble; heiss
Everything you say is true.

When are you going to demonstrate the feasibility of what you want by winning an election? You know, just one.


Well shoot, I guess we should just give up then, right?

I sure am glad the GOP did not give up trying to get control of the house after 40 years of Democrat control.
60 posted on 11/23/2011 8:16:44 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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