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To: af_vet_rr
They are going to be in for a shock if they think they can make us toe the line by trying to scare us.

How would it be if we used that fear to get behind a candidate who is not Romney? Right now, the Perry supporters are attacking Cain, the Bachmann supporters are attacking Perry, and everyone who isn't for Gingrich is loaded for bear. Perhaps if we refused to accept the inevitability of Romney, we could come to terms with a candidate who maybe wasn't our first choice, but had the fact that he was definitely not Romney going for him/her. In my primary, I'm voting for the frontrunner to upset Romney. I prefer any of them to Mitt.

58 posted on 11/21/2011 7:43:05 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
How would it be if we used that fear to get behind a candidate who is not Romney? Right now, the Perry supporters are attacking Cain, the Bachmann supporters are attacking Perry, and everyone who isn't for Gingrich is loaded for bear. Perhaps if we refused to accept the inevitability of Romney, we could come to terms with a candidate who maybe wasn't our first choice, but had the fact that he was definitely not Romney going for him/her. In my primary, I'm voting for the frontrunner to upset Romney. I prefer any of them to Mitt.

I think it's too early to be trying to unify between just one candidate - that's why it was ridiculous for the Perry supporters to push the idea that supporting anybody but Perry was supporting Romney - no Perry supporter could have predicted how far Perry would fall and how long he would remain there, and it's why it's ridiculous for some to push the idea that Newt will be the chosen candidate. I think it's way too early anybody to drop out, although more and more Bachmann's behavior is leaving me wondering why she doesn't get asked to leave.

Of course, I hate the way the early primaries are geared, because it's ridiculous the means the candidates have to go through to be involved, but that's another story.

To be honest, I'm not really worried about Romney. The people who would support him are already supporting him, and that's all that's ever going to support him. All it's going to take is just a few candidates to drop out and you'll see a candidate consistently pass up Romney.
86 posted on 11/21/2011 8:05:51 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: presidio9
I'd add that you bring up the problem of the two-party system. The two parties are interested in perpetuating their hold on our government. If we continue with the idea that we have to support somebody because of the letter next to their name regardless of how opposed we are to them, we are going to perpetuate the problems that both parties are creating. All we are doing at that point is passing the problems off to our grandchildren, and making things worse.

Every now and then we need to shake up our political system. We need to let them know that they will not automatically get our vote.
87 posted on 11/21/2011 8:10:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: presidio9
Right now, the Perry supporters are attacking Cain, the Bachmann supporters are attacking Perry, and everyone who isn't for Gingrich is loaded for bear. Perhaps if we refused to accept the inevitability of Romney, we could come to terms with a candidate who maybe wasn't our first choice, but had the fact that he was definitely not Romney going for him/her.

It started with the cult of Palin. I'm not referring to Palin herself, but her most rabid supporters who were tearing everybody down assuming that she was going to run. Pawlenty couldn't catch on. Bachmann won the straw poll, but was taking from Palin's base. Bam. Palin didn't run. Perry jumped in. Immigration killed him, along with gaffes. Now it's Cain or Newt.

100 posted on 11/21/2011 8:30:14 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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