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Dems to Obama: Yeah, You Should Probably Just Quit
Townhall.com ^ | November 21, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/21/2011 10:55:02 AM PST by Kaslin

At this point, President Obama has got to be sick of hearing about buyer's remorse from Democratic voters; and I'm sure Hillary Clinton is getting sick of hearing about why she should run against Obama in 2012, but the calls for Obama to step down and for Clinton to step up are only getting louder. Democratic pollsters Doug Schoen and Patrick Caddell have said Obama should step aside before, and they did it again over the weekend in the Wall Street Journal.

He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president's accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Never before has there been such an obvious potential successor—one who has been a loyal and effective member of the president's administration, who has the stature to take on the office, and who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy.


Certainly, Mr. Obama could still win re-election in 2012. Even with his all-time low job approval ratings (and even worse ratings on handling the economy) the president could eke out a victory in November. But the kind of campaign required for the president's political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern—not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.

Put simply, it seems that the White House has concluded that if the president cannot run on his record, he will need to wage the most negative campaign in history to stand any chance. With his job approval ratings below 45% overall and below 40% on the economy, the president cannot affirmatively make the case that voters are better off now than they were four years ago. He—like everyone else—knows that they are worse off.

Even though Mrs. Clinton has expressed no interest in running, and we have no information to suggest that she is running any sort of stealth campaign, it is clear that she commands majority support throughout the country. A CNN/ORC poll released in late September had Mrs. Clinton's approval rating at an all-time high of 69%—even better than when she was the nation's first lady. Meanwhile, a Time Magazine poll shows that Mrs. Clinton is favored over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by 17 points (55%-38%), and Texas Gov. Rick Perry by 26 points (58%-32%).


But this is about more than electoral politics. Not only is Mrs. Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr. Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does. Given her strong public support, she has the ability to step above partisan politics, reach out to Republicans, change the dialogue, and break the gridlock in Washington.

So, say Clinton does decide to jump in the race, which is highly unlikely, ObamaCare is still off the table for debate if Romney gets the GOP nomination; remember HillaryCare anyone?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bho2012; bhojobapproval; hillary; hillary2012; obamaoneterm; patcaddell; schoen
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To: Seaplaner
Hillary is Obama's Veep for 2012.

Not a chance. Hillary would not accept the veep spot.

21 posted on 11/21/2011 11:27:44 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Kaslin

Folks should be aware that Doug Schoen is one of the principles in what is called “Americans Elect,” a phony Democrat astro-turf attempt to peel off votes from whomever the Republicans nominate.

The effort is almost certainly being funded by George Soros.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 11:28:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you endorse.)
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To: Kaslin

“who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy.”

Damn. I HATE it when my head explodes. Gotta clean up now...


23 posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:04 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: EternalVigilance

Anyone think the Mediacrats would ask Hillary which department heads would she get rid of?


24 posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:54 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: thackney
James K. Polk, 11th President of the United States, did not return for a second term, stating that he was heartily rejoiced when his term ended. According to this
25 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:22 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: thackney

Yes.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:30 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: EternalVigilance

Anyone think the Mediacrats would ask Hillary which department heads would she get rid of?


27 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:34 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: 6ppc
Not a chance. Hillary would not accept the veep spot.

Unless she thought that barry might be involved in an unfortunate tragic "accident" soon after the election.
28 posted on 11/21/2011 11:54:48 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Kaslin

Iron a pantsuit Hillary, you’re up.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 11:55:57 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Kaslin

Of course, Polk had promised to serve only one term—it’s how he got the Dem presidential nomination in the first place (the Dems were divided into two factions, neither one of which could get the 2/3 of the vote or whatever it was to nominate someone, and both factions agreed that it was better to nominate a compromise candidate that would allow them to gight it out again in four years).

And Polk also died shortly afterwards, so he wouldn’t have lived out a second term anyhow.

There have been other one-termers by choice (Pierce, Buchanan and Hayes); I’m not including those who also served part of another president’s term, such as TR and Coolidge), but Polk is the only one who would be considered a great president. If Obama doesn’t run again, it would be more of a Buchanan thing.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 11:56:21 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Seaplaner
I've said it a dozen times... Hillary is Obama's Veep for 2012.

And Palin is Cain's Veep.

That's why she didn't run for president. It was decided this would be a better way to go against Obama/Hitlery - head to head.

Of course, the real irony is that the Rat ticket was supposed to be Hillary/Obama in 2008, and now it's going to be reversed for 2012.

Whatever. They'll still lose. The communist totalitarian machine is going down.

31 posted on 11/21/2011 11:56:30 AM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Kaslin

He could quit today and make a lot of people very happy.


32 posted on 11/21/2011 12:08:06 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Kaslin
Polk was in such poor health at the end of his presidency that he died a few months later.

But Rutherford B. Hayes looks like he fits the description of choosing not to continue. It was a campaign pledge of his to only serve one term.

33 posted on 11/21/2011 12:15:01 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Tallguy; All
I’m sure that Pat Caddell is pretty-much considered a “turncloak” by the Democrat-Media elites. He’s pretty much discounted. If others start making this point... that would be News.

My guess is Pat is still a sounding board for the ( yes it is an oxymoron) common sense Dems, and he is relaying to the world what he hears and that is what is scary to the campaign staffs at various levels, but the DNC? They are deaf to what he says at their own peril.

Love to see his use an old phrase "Rolodex", I love to know who is calling him and venting their spleens.....

34 posted on 11/21/2011 12:21:34 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Jonty30

He will never be prosecuted for anything, ever. Ex-presidents get full salary and Secret Service protection, for life. Ex-president is just about as good a gig as there ever was. In a lotta countries, the ex-president has to worry about a firing squad, not in the USA. Thank goodness.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 12:23:36 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Polk had no choice. He was in such poor health at the end he died a few months after leaving office.

Pierce ran for re-election but was defeated in his primary.

Buchanan didn't appear to have a chance as the democratic party was splitting up 1860. He may have chosen not to run but the party was so splintered by the time his admin ended the following democratic convention resulted in a split in the group forming two separate conventions.

Hayes appear to actually have chosen by his own will not to run when he was in health and standing to have done so again.

36 posted on 11/21/2011 12:30:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Ex-presidents get full salary and Secret Service protection, for life.

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Not any more:

Under the Former Presidents Act, each former president is paid a lifetime, taxable pension that is equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the head of an executive federal department — $199,700 in 2011 — the same annual salary paid to secretaries of the Cabinet agencies.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presidentialpay.htm

In 1997, Congress enacted legislation (Public Law 103-329) that limits Secret Service protection for former presidents to 10 years after leaving office. Under this new law, individuals who are in office before January 1, 1997, will continue to receive Secret Service protection for their lifetime. Individuals elected to office after that time will receive protection for 10 years after leaving office. Therefore, President Clinton will be the last president to receive lifetime protection.

http://www.secretservice.gov/faq.shtml#faq9


37 posted on 11/21/2011 12:35:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Has any first term president decided not to run the next term?

Truman and Johnson.

38 posted on 11/21/2011 12:59:11 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
In 1951, the U.S. ratified the 22nd Amendment, making a president ineligible to be elected for a third time, or to be elected for a second time after having served more than two years of a previous president's term. Truman had a grandfather clause since he was president when this was passed, but I don't see how he had a real choice when the nation had decided they didn't want to see another president staying in that long.

Johnson run in the following terms presidential primary but withdrew after he was losing badly, following the New Hampshire primary.

39 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

You’re right, Pierce sought reelection, but lost in the Dem convention.

But Polk chose to keep his word and not seek reelection even before he became seriously ill.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:50 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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