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Don't know about all of you, but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality.

Don't care who the protestors are--I take a back seat to no one here on conservative principles.

We have reached a new low in the relationship between peaceful protest and the state when police feel they can spray peaceful protestors like insects.

Again, I don't give a crap about some of their views, but this is just plain wrong.

1 posted on 11/19/2011 2:52:53 PM PST by NetLiberty
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Don't know about all of you, but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality

Well then go file a complaint or hire a lawyer for the VICTIMS...better yet, just go on down and join them at the barricades to express your solidarity with the VICTIMS of this unexpected and most brutal police brutality ever.
32 posted on 11/19/2011 3:13:24 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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This was acceptable force used by the police for willful non-compliance to a lawful order. Much more extreme force could have been used, but chemical sprays are way down the list of possible methods.

Would you have preferred rubber bullets or water cannons? Pepper spray is hellaciously painful, but ultimately harmless.


34 posted on 11/19/2011 3:15:55 PM PST by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality.

No, it is not. [Compare this to Syria]

35 posted on 11/19/2011 3:17:19 PM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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Are you sure that you are on the right forum? You would probanly feel more at home at DU.


36 posted on 11/19/2011 3:18:41 PM PST by sport
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Let them have their fun, after all they are just kids....

20 years down the road it will be:

Mr. EGPWS sentenced to death after returning to his home and after finding a peaceful protester had entered didn't allow him to remain sitting in his living room LazyBoy and protest for the rights of those unable to afford a homestead to get a taxpayer paid for homestead.

39 posted on 11/19/2011 3:19:42 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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How long were these people told they were breaking the law and had to move?
If never told and they did that I would consider that a reason to get people fired.
If they were told for a while to move out of there and they defied the rules of that area and still stayed and got prayed, well what could they expect?


40 posted on 11/19/2011 3:22:59 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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They weren’t sprayed for protesting, which is of course the right of every American. They were sprayed for blocking the sidewalk, which is a crime (California Penal Code 647c, Obstructing Sidewalk: “Every person who willfully and maliciously obstructs the free movement of any person on any street, sidewalk, or other public place or on or in any place open to the public is guilty of a misdemeanor”). If they had moved onto the grassy area nearby, it’s likely no arrest or spraying would have occurred.

Don’t be taken in by Enemy propaganda. This sort of action is designed to elicit sympathy from the general public. By pitting cute college kids “peacefully protesting for a cause” against overweight cops in black uniforms, the Enemy subtly draws you into siding with the useful idiots protesting against the injustices of the System. The supreme example of this tactic in action is the civil rights movement of the 1960s and the Kent State ‘massacre” in 1970.

Don’t let them fool you. OWS is no mass movement, no real protest. It’s all a carefully orchestrated program of psychological warfare aimed at you.


42 posted on 11/19/2011 3:26:08 PM PST by Space Patrol Hoppa
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You might want to get both sides of the story before you jump to conclusions (we wouldn’t want to be like Obama here blaming the white cop who acted “stupidly”, would we?...)

“UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said officers used force out of concern for their own safety after they were surrounded by students...”

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/11/18/police-defend-use-of-force-on-occupy-uc-davis/


44 posted on 11/19/2011 3:28:36 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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You've fallen for the oldest trick in the anarchists’ playbook. Under cover of the “peaceful” protesters (passive-aggressive is a more apt description), they deliberately escalate until they provoke a police response. Then they cry “police state!” to gain the sympathies of the “bourgeoisie” (that would be you and me). They use the same ploy time and time again, because it works. It helps that they have a massive propaganda arm (the MSM).

As the protesters might say: you need to have your consciousness raised.

45 posted on 11/19/2011 3:30:17 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Occupy marchers warned by resident not to walk in neighborhood
47 posted on 11/19/2011 3:31:18 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (For years the Left protested "the occupation of Iraq"- now they want to "Occupy" all across the US)
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Whatever force is necessary to achieve compliance! If they don’t want pepper sprayed they need to get the hell out of the way!!


49 posted on 11/19/2011 3:34:36 PM PST by ontap
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The police should have used the opportunity to test the "Active Denial System." Either that, or give an entire K-9 school class a "field day."
50 posted on 11/19/2011 3:35:25 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality.

Oh, give us a break! - maybe we are to beg them to leave?

Remember what these non lethal methods replace? Billy sticks & bullets - maybe you would like them back instead?

Don't know about all of you, but

I think that you know exactly about "us."

51 posted on 11/19/2011 3:37:58 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Funny!! LMAO,,
And for those who care, the cops were tearing down tent cities that were ordered to be removed. They made a few arrests, and the occutards formed that line to block the police as they tried to exit.

They are complete enemies of this nation, wish to create an American USSR, and deserved way more violence than they received.


52 posted on 11/19/2011 3:39:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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“I take a back seat to no one here on conservative principles. “

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

A prerequisite for being conservative is understanding the issues, and letting facts determine your ideology. You have done neither, and therefore, you don’t qualify as a conservative. Don’t fool yourself into labeling yourself as such.

The police here were justified, restrained, and did their job well. The agitators were asked to move and did not. Like parents with children, you have to show them who is in control.


53 posted on 11/19/2011 3:39:53 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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I can understand your point, but you are clearly ignoring these groups’ track record of late. Need I list their crimes and attacks on our public sensibilities here? You already know them.

I can’t stand “Dirty Harry Wannabes” any more than you; I get that and support your statement there. We need to maintain our right to freedom of expression, even if we vehemently disagree with the stance of a particular group.

However...........these a**holes are well-organized, coordinated, and have established themselves as violent troublemakers. I’d EASILY cut the cops some slack here and let them take out the trash without rebuke, and ONLY because of this established and clear-cut track record of the OWS crowd we’ve been witnessing for weeks.


54 posted on 11/19/2011 3:39:56 PM PST by RightOnline
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Geeze, how many times is this going to be posted. And to see members of FR sympathizing with the occutards and wailing about police brutality is disappointing.

The “protesters” were asked to move, they refused, they were warned, they still refused to move, the police then dispersed the crowd and made arrests using non lethal force. What is the problem? This is not police brutality. These hippies will be fine and the pepper spray will have caused no permanent damage.

These “protesters” are putting the police in these situations on purpose in order to catch some Kent State moments on video. Your falling for it. This is not a case of police brutality in any way, shape or form.


56 posted on 11/19/2011 3:42:13 PM PST by Longbow1969
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“when police feel they can spray peaceful protestors like insects”

Peaceful protesters? Didn’t see any of those, but i saw a bunch of marxist obama street thugs, determined to destroy a free America, trying to prevent the cops from leaving with a few people they had arrested.


57 posted on 11/19/2011 3:42:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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These are not “peaceful protesters”. They are defiant lawbreakers.

Commies think they are entitled to appropriate public property and dictate to all others how they must live their lives.

Why do you lie about and support evil lawbreaking scum?


58 posted on 11/19/2011 3:43:35 PM PST by rogue yam
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You don’t understand.

They only want the police to brutalize the protesters that they do not agree with.

However, if the police were to do the exact same thing to people at a Pro Life rally, they would be opposed to such police brutality.

It is as if they love the First Amendment, but only when they agree with the views being expressed.


60 posted on 11/19/2011 3:49:04 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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