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To: sakic

You wrote:

“What the Church should do is allow their priests to marry.”

None of the historic churches ever had priests who married. The Church literally cannot change that. One day the Church may ordain married men regularly, but it will NEVER have priests who marry. There’s a huge difference.

“This would go a long way to solving a lot of their problems.”

Sandusky was married. Did it solve his problem?

“Basing your rules on something that goes against biology makes zero sense.”

All of Christianity in a sense “goes against biology” for we depend on grace and not the flesh in general. Christ becoming man goes “goes against biology” as we know it. Many scientists will tell you monogamy “goes against biology”.

“They did it to save money in claims against them.”

Did what?

“It is time to abandon the policy. Until that day they are going to attract a lot of priests who have mental issues of some sort. It is unnatural to deny the right to have sex and take a partner.”

They don’t deny it. People choose celibacy. It is imposed on exactly no one.


44 posted on 11/19/2011 5:54:42 AM PST by vladimir998 (Public school grads are often too dumb to realize they're dumb)
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To: vladimir998

I’m in the camp that says the bible allows a looser policy — however, I’ve personally watched a person, the pastor of my own church who became celibate against his will when his wife died at an untimely age, and I saw (and continue to see) God use that to advance the quality of his very much evangelical ministry. St. Paul wasn’t woofing when he said that pastoral singlehood had its advantages. If he was woofing, then the Bible is telling lies in that passage.


49 posted on 11/19/2011 6:03:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: vladimir998

What in the Bible points to not allowing priests to marry? This is not about religion. It is about money.


52 posted on 11/19/2011 6:08:01 AM PST by sakic
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To: vladimir998

Excellent smackdown.


96 posted on 11/19/2011 8:09:16 AM PST by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: vladimir998
1Cr 9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and [as] the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? _________________________________________________

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

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Tts 1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

Tts 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

Tts 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; ........

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1Cr 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman.

1Cr 7:2 Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1Cr 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

1Cr 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

1Cr 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

1Cr 7:6 But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment.

1Cr 7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

1Cr 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

1Cr 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

141 posted on 11/19/2011 8:34:44 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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