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Is GOP missing chance to grow? (Hispanic vote)
Las Vegas Sun ^ | November 19, 2011 | Karoun Demirjian

Posted on 11/19/2011 2:09:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

...“You would be surprised at how many Republican Latinos there actually are in the state of Nevada. There are quite a few of us,” said Alex Garza, a Hispanic Republican activist. “I think the numbers are there; we just haven’t organized as well as the Democratic Latino organizations.”

The potential political power of Latinos is an oft-told story in Nevada and elsewhere, though any happy ending at the polls usually is enjoyed by Democrats.

...During the Republican presidential candidates’ nationally televised debate in Las Vegas last month, they were asked how they would speak to the Latino community. Newt Gingrich suggested that Latinos didn’t need to be singled out as any different from any other ethnic group. But Rick Santorum suggested Latinos should naturally gravitate toward the Republican Party because of shared faith-based values.

That message resonates with some Latinos.

“The Republican Party has very, very strong family values ... Latino families in general believe in the family values as well,” said Jose Hernandez, an accountant who serves as a youth pastor at his evangelical church with a mostly Latino group of 18- to 30-year-olds he counsels.

“My youth that I teach, obviously I’m teaching them Biblical principles and stuff, but then outside, I introduce them to the subject ... and by doing that I’m actually getting people to start coming around and thinking that the Republican agenda actually has better options than President Obama and the Senate,” he said. “If they’re learning good Christian values, they will vote Republican.”

Catching the youth is key any effort to gain support in the community. Nationwide, every month, 50,000 Latinos turn 18 and become eligible to vote.

Cantu and Garza say the party is working on it but could use funding and assistance from the greater Nevada GOP...

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: TADSLOS
The Vetoes of Rick Perry - As Texas governor, he broke records and earned conservative support.....In Texas, they called it the “Father’s Day Massacre.”....

Betting on Rick Perry - a winner in a GOP year, with no need in the world to win liberal approval ………..”IT WILL BE THE JOBS ISSUE—and Texas’s record in creating them—that will define Rick Perry’s presidential run. Since he became governor in 2001, the U.S. as a whole has had a net loss of private-sector jobs, while Texas—which has only 8 percent of the nation’s population—has had a net gain of 825,000 jobs.

Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Board, told me that if you look at the number of jobs created since the recession technically ended in June 2009, Texas has accounted for 48 percent of net new jobs created in the U.S.

Fisher also disparages claims that the jobs are all low-paying jobs at McDonald’s or Walmart, paying the minimum wage, or that they were primarily caused by the oil and natural gas boom. According to Tom Pauken of the Texas Work Force Commission, the annual median wage in Texas in 2010 for all occupations was $31,500 a year, only 7 percent below the national average. That difference is easily explained by the fact that Texas has a younger workforce than most states and a higher percentage of workers in lower-pay agriculture jobs near the border with Mexico. [ CW: Cost of living in Texas is lower than many other states; Texas has no state income tax; Texas is a right to work state.]

As for where the job growth has been, three sectors of the economy have grown faster than the energy sector, which alone added 40,500 net new jobs in 2010. Last year, Texas added 57,900 new jobs in trade, transportation, and utilities; a total of 53,400 jobs in professional and business services; and 44,900 net new jobs in the hospitality industry.

For each of the past seven years, CEOs polled by “Chief Executive” magazine have rated Texas first in the nation for economic development climate and job growth. What is the secret of Texas’s success? Rick Perry isn’t shy about his answer. “It’s all about four points,” he told me. “First, don’t spend all the money. Keep the taxes low and under control. Have regulations that are fair and predictable so business owners know what to expect from one quarter to the next. And reform the legal system so that frivolous lawsuits don’t paralyze employers who are trying to create real wealth.”

If there is on issue which Perry has made a personal crusade, it is lawsuit reform. Working with the legislature, he has helped pass curbs on frivolous lawsuits, implemented a first-in-the-nation system under which loser pays all court costs in many lawsuits, and reformed medical malpractice law.

Dick Weekley, the co-founder of Texans for Lawsuit Reform, says Perry showed genuine political courage in resisting calls for watered-down reforms that wouldn’t have addressed the core problem. He recalls that in 2002 Perry vetoed a bill strongly supported by doctors that would have required them to prompt payment from health maintenance organizations. In the eyes of the tort reform advocates, the bill was a Trojan Horse compromise negotiated between doctors and trial lawyers. “There was a huge response from physicians [against the veto],” Kim Ross, the former top lobbyist for the Texas Medical Association, said. TMA went so far as to endorse Tony Sanchez, Perry’s millionaire Democratic opponent in the 2002 election. “Perry sent a signal that he wanted real reform and would stand his ground,” Weekley told me. “Soon the medical lobbyists playing footsie with the trial lawyers were gone and the obstacles to real reform started falling.”………………..

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AND now the TMA is endorsing Gov. Rick Perry. They understand now what he was doing would HELP them.

...."The Texas Medical Association’s political action committee recently endorsed him for president, and its members are helping him raise money and make connections with medical groups in other states.".... source

21 posted on 11/19/2011 4:53:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You would be surprised at how illiterate these people are. I live next door to a house that has 5 families living in it. Many of my friends are illegals. They are all corrupt, you pay for jobs, and if you are white, you pay more.

These people don’t care about America, they care about Hispanics. They are racist, They claim to have an agenda, but that agenda is not for America, it is for the Hispanics.

When we hear people like Perry tout the possible citizenship for illegal immigrants, you fail to let people know that these people could not and can not apply for citizenship because they are just too damn stupid, never having completed their education.

My friend, Luis, is an illegal alien. He has his plus moments as when he observed my 3 year old daughter talking to her imaginary friends. Luis told me that young people can see angels. But then Luis tells me about his encounter on a remote road where his ex is performing sex with the devil. I won’t go into detail here, but it was graphic.

Keep up your support for Perry, no one else will.


22 posted on 11/19/2011 4:56:46 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: Haddit

Who is your candidate?


23 posted on 11/19/2011 4:58:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Liz; TADSLOS; South40; cripplecreek; stephenjohnbanker
I suggest the forum read the article and not believe your comment. It seems you, like a few other who have just flocked to this thread, want to drive conservatives to the Democratic Party ballot. Interesting.

Sure. I guess it hasn't dawned you you and your ilk yet that you are being played by the progressives any time you support latinos over Americans. People who live in the U.S. and identify themselves as anything other than American are playing the mulch-cultural ism card along with the race card.

I don't identify myself as a Polish-American or a German-American. Why should I? Yet, these people are all too willing to use their 'race' to garner favor and special rights = and you play along. Since when did conservatism get co-opted by the race baiters?

Call yourself a conservative if you want but you reveal YOUR liberal bent by giving credence to the separation of U.S. citizens by hyphenating them into groups. This the basic strategy of the liberal/progressive movement. By compartmentalizing Americans they can promise little things to each group to get their vote.

“The Republican Party has very, very strong family values ... Latino families in general believe in the family values as well,” said Jose Hernandez...

Yeah, right. I know of many "family values" hispanic men who have a wife in a foreign country and one here - along with bastard children from other women. Don't know many WHITE American men like that.

>“There has been a record number of deportations,” Cantu said. “That tells me he doesn’t care.”

Well, well, well. Now we get to the heart of this issue. It's all about hispanic immigration. Because we all know that only hispanics want to immigrate to the U.S., don't we. To HELL with anyone else who wants to come here for a better life. And, you have the nerve to support this blatant ethnic preference for hispanic immigrants, along with Perry, and then chastise me, and others like me, for standing up against it.

Ellis, meanwhile, changed her registration to independent and her tone to one of concerned criticism at how the party she loves is speaking to Latinos.

"Speaking to latinos"? How could you get any more racist than that? Why SHOULD a republican candidate "speak to latinos" any differently than he would an American? When will you stop supporting this crap and stand up as an American and decry the balkanization of the citizens of this country? Or, are you FOR it? As Perry seems to be.

Newt Gingrich suggested that Latinos didn’t need to be singled out as any different from any other ethnic group.

I bet that ticks you off to no end, doesn't it? Gingrich is right but that would mean equality for all who want to come here and equality for all under the law - not the special rights and interests called the "latinos". Can't have that, can we?

I suggest the forum read the article...

Yes, forum, go read the article and add your own instances of racism from the article to this thread. I just pulled out a couple.

24 posted on 11/19/2011 5:06:31 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

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25 posted on 11/19/2011 5:09:16 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hardly. Conservativism, with exception of Virginia, just took a big hit across the country just a few weeks ago. Personally, I’m convinced the nation is lost.


26 posted on 11/19/2011 5:15:59 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ah yes, the shop-worn argument by open-borders conservatives like Karl Rove, George W. Bush and Rick Perry that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." This argument is false, and is just a cover for the business interests that profit from cheap illegal labor by shifting the full costs onto the rest of society.

Hispanic Family Values?

City Journal, by Heather Mac Donald

Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.

Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future.

Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

27 posted on 11/19/2011 5:18:45 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: Haddit

I could tell similar disgusting stories of livng in Arizona, encountering amd witnessing blatantly extreme racism and hate, openly and very vocally expressed in the workplace and in public.

The groups and individuals involved were NEVER held accountable, they were ALWAYS excused or coddled by both public officials, government employees, and workplace management.

No conservative politician should be talking to a genocidal hate group like La Raza, for any reason.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 5:20:53 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: raybbr
“We have a lot of work to do, to bring people out who want to vote for President Obama and his administration,” said Vicenta Montoya, an immigration attorney in Las Vegas who serves as director of the Sí Se Puede (translation: “yes we can”) caucus of the Clark County Democrats.

Where have we heard that before, aside from it being Obama's campaign slogan in 2008?

It's what La Raza Rick Perry said when he went to Mexico in 2001 to brag about his great accomplishment of giving taxpayer funded subsidies to ILLEGAL aliens in Texas.

“The message is simple,” La Raza Rick said, “educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.


29 posted on 11/19/2011 5:25:14 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why is Rick Perry replicating the same losing message of McCain? Why does Rick Perry oppose E-Verify? Why is Rick Perry giving special higher education perks to illegals over U.S. Citizens? Why is Rick Perry engaging in the form of soft racism called hispandering? Why isn’t Rick Perry gaining traction after pushing out “his” energy and tax “reform” plans? After all, it’s been a month now and he’s still trailing the crazy uncle Ron Paul and running with the republican back packers. I’ll tell you why- Conservatives have been stung too many times by frauds like Perry full of conservative
rhetoric yet woefully lacking in conservative actions. Perry simply has no credibility as a conservative and his dismal showing, despite millions spent in retail ads, bear that out.


30 posted on 11/19/2011 5:28:04 AM PST by TADSLOS (Lexicon Genetics- Rick Perry's Solyndra Moment)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You won’t get the Hispanic vote by appealing to the racism of their race tribe leaders like Leftists do - like putting them above the law as Perry did with his in-state tution program. You won’t get the hispanic vote by lifting up LaRaza who directs them based on skin separation and tribal hatreds as Perry promotes when he gives LaRaza his attention. That’s like speaking to the KKK for the “white vote.” That is what the left does and if they settle in that mentality, they will always vote racist (democrat) and always be in poverty - like black racists are.

You will get the Hispanic vote by addressing them as unhyphenated Americans who share America’s values within the culture and the ideology of constitutional freedom. Equality before the law and, in general, the rule of law is central to American freedom as is unity and idenity beyond foreign race tribe.

I don’t want the Hispanic vote if that means placing the tribe above the rule of law and giving them unconstitutional foreign tribal preferences over the rights and interests of Americans. If that is what they want, they are Democrats. And if that is what you want to give to them as a leader, you are a Democrat. But from my experience, with the exception of leftists, that is not what American Hispanics want when presented with freedom’s ideology and values as a choice to the left’s racism.

Lawlessness is what illegals and their abettors want and I want them out of my country. Not so with Perry, unfortunately.


31 posted on 11/19/2011 5:31:49 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Nice rant but save it for someone else.

Gov. Perry doesn’t pander.


32 posted on 11/19/2011 5:34:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TADSLOS

Again, nice rant.

I see the “put Obama back in office for 4 more years” posters are out in force.


33 posted on 11/19/2011 5:35:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: raybbr
Sure. I guess it hasn't dawned you you and your ilk yet that you are being played by the progressives any time you support latinos over Americans. People who live in the U.S. and identify themselves as anything other than American are playing the mulch-cultural ism card along with the race card.

I resent that bunch of BS. I never am "played" and I do not support any group over another. I detest identity politics but then you know that and are using your comments as a way to discredit me ("play" the emotions of other FReepers) and shut me up.

Won't work.

34 posted on 11/19/2011 5:38:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: South40

Still looking for your candidate South40?

Let us know when you figure it out.


35 posted on 11/19/2011 5:40:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If “latinos”, whatever that means, don’t vote republican because republicans are sick of the latin american invasion, then screw them. They can go live on the Democratic plantations where they belong with the other racists.


36 posted on 11/19/2011 5:42:38 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I can always count on your twisted interpretation of an article. Thanks for not disappointing.


37 posted on 11/19/2011 5:45:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My candidate is not in single digits. Can you say that? Of course you can't.

The more voters see of La Raza Rick the more he repels them.

38 posted on 11/19/2011 5:48:41 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I resent that bunch of BS. I never am "played" and I do not support any group over another. I detest identity politics but then you know that and are using your comments as a way to discredit me ("play" the emotions of other FReepers) and shut me up.

Right. That's why you posted this thread about "identity politics"

...”Perry then played to the crowd as best he could, and mentioned the Latinos he’s appointed to office, including Secretary of State Esperanza “Hope” Andrade, Texas Supreme Court Justice Eva Guzman and Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Director José Cuevas.

Nope. NO identity politics there....

39 posted on 11/19/2011 5:52:35 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Great comments Sara.


40 posted on 11/19/2011 5:52:53 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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