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To: stevie_d_64
anything to hide

I agree. But who cares about

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
anymore. Not government, that's for sure.
10 posted on 11/17/2011 4:36:15 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
I noted in your quote from the Bill of Rights (4th Amendment) that the term "people" was used by the authors.

NOT "legal citizens", NOT "natural born citizens", NOT "citizens".....

Could it therefore be assumed that those living within US jurisdiction could all be called "people"???

11 posted on 11/17/2011 4:40:52 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: from occupied ga

How does a UAV violate that clause?


12 posted on 11/17/2011 4:41:23 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: from occupied ga

That’s why it is important to stand up to these “innocent” intrusions...

A lawyer freind of mine gave me the proper phrase-ology for dealing with “The Question”...

“Sir/Ma’am, do you mind if I take a look in your vehicle?”

Your answer should never contain the word “Yes” or “No” in it, as your answer will be recorded in most jurisdictions that mic their officers...

“I do NOT concent to a search of my vehicle or person, am I FREE to go?” (and leave it at that...)

If you say the word “Yes” in the context or assumption that you are agreeing to a search, that is ALL the excuse they need...If you say “No”, it means you don’t mind them looking in their vehicle...

So be careful what you say in this regard...Don’t raise yourr voice, don’t sneer or disrespect the officer in this investigation, and if they still do it, well, then you have made your objections, and they are noted as evidence, for your future lawsuit...

BTW, a sneeky little thing you can do is if you are asked to get out of the vehicle, tell anyone with you to not open or unlock the doors after you get out, unless you give them permission to do so...

If you are alone, then get out, obey the officers command to this point, make sure you lock your door(s) and put the keys quickly in your pocket, out of habit...

That way they have to get a warrant to access your personal property...Now they can claim “officer safety” or some other assinine “probable cause” issue...Then thats ok, you’ve made your refusal known, and the ride will then begin...

I’m not a lawyer, but I do get some good tidbits (from time to time from them)...

Of course I am ready for the naysayers to try and debunk this advise, so taking the advise I was given is your own choice...

Bottom line, most Law Enforcment officers are not a problem, and I have a lot of friends who wear the badge...Most don’t have a problem with this advise, adn most will back down when they realise there is not a problem they need to press any further when “we” gamed this senario out...

As much as they are commissioned to enforce the law, we (citizens) have the right to refuse a search, and protect our privacy...What happens after the gameboard is set here, is up to the officer or deputy asking the question...

Just be ready for the ride of your life if they press the issue...Stand your ground and do not let the casual occurances lead them to believe everyone out there is subject or acceptable to unwarranted searches...

/rant


16 posted on 11/17/2011 4:55:08 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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