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Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:

1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,

2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,

3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos

4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,

5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,

6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,

7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum ----- or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,

8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; ----- certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device ----- and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan

9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion ----- to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, ----- to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam

[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars ----- until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table ----- because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes ----- and knows that they will just take his word for it ----- and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]

10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out

then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.

1 posted on 11/16/2011 10:23:20 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...

http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/national/10516-the-peak-oil-crisis-transitioning-to-cold-fusion.html

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2 posted on 11/16/2011 10:23:55 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo; SunkenCiv; decimon; All

So is it a scam, or could cold fusion actually become worthwhile at some point in the future??


4 posted on 11/16/2011 10:32:07 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Kevmo
Does that mean it's going to be called "Signore Fusion?"
5 posted on 11/16/2011 10:36:18 PM PST by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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To: Kevmo
The Peak Oil Crisis: Transitioning to Cold Fusion

Is the most popular article on the Falls Church News website.

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Is the second most popular.

6 posted on 11/16/2011 10:39:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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8 posted on 11/16/2011 10:39:49 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREHEE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Kevmo

Mr. Whipple, please don’t squeeze the protons!


12 posted on 11/16/2011 10:54:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Kevmo

Fusion with nickel absorbs energy, not produces any.

Physics 101

Fail


19 posted on 11/16/2011 11:32:52 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Kevmo
Well here ya go Kev. Here's where you can find out to order your very own E-Cat!

ECAT.COM
New Broad Street House
35 New Broad Street
London, EC2M 1NH

The Cosmic Consciousness is about to feel one hand slap it in the face, The Stream of History is being channelized and dredged, Utopia is now We-topia! Order now!

21 posted on 11/17/2011 12:05:57 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Kevmo
The Peak Oil Crisis: Transitioning to Cold Fusion

"Peak Oil Crisis"? Just as the world-wide production of gas and oil is about to explode, he brings up the ol' "peak" fallacy. That said, I have no objections to cold fusion as long as not one dime of taxpayer money goes into its development.

24 posted on 11/17/2011 2:38:54 AM PST by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Kevmo
So, Kevmo, have you ordered your E-Cat yet?

The slick and professional-looking version of his commercial site is up:

http://ecat.com

Rossi acknowledges that this is really his site here:

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=33#comment-121582

You can fill out the online form to get on the waiting list!

I also notice he's dropped the promise of holding the customer's money in escrow until they are satisfied if it works. But I'm sure it will work just fine; nobody with such a nice looking web site could be doing anything nefarious!

He also says he will start delivering devices in three months, so I guess we have until mid-February to continue arguing over the lack of any valid information about how (or whether) the E-Cat works.

26 posted on 11/17/2011 3:13:15 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo

Probably would have done better with a different title. Any time I see “Peak Oil”, my BS meter starts to twitch.

I suppose we will reach “Peak Oil” someday, but it wasn’t in 1969 and it isn’t today.


28 posted on 11/17/2011 3:57:55 AM PST by rlmorel (The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
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To: Kevmo

FACTS:

Peak Oil is a myth

Climate Change is a myth

Cold Fusion is unproven


30 posted on 11/17/2011 4:45:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Kevmo
HERE is an interesting thread on the Vortex mailing list, about Rossi's German partner.

They already have a "perpetual motion" power generator that sounds far more impressive than Rossi's tea kettle. It generates electricity and heat without any fuel, which is far better than having to rely on Rossi to provide recharges of his magic pixie dust every six months.

Rossi seems to be consistently picking partners with histories of gullibility and/or fraud.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 7:39:56 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo

It’s either the greatest technological advancement since prehistoric man learned to make fire, or a scam.

IMHO, in the short term we’d be better off working on COAL fusion (turning solid fossil fuels into liquids and gasses) than cold fusion.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 8:07:48 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Kevmo
9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion
Defkalion was set up to hype Rossi's E-Cat. Their internet domain was created the day before Rossi's first public dog & pony show.

The very first sentence of THIS document states:

Defkalion Green Technologies s.a. was established to manufacture and market products based on the E-Cat, which was invented by Andrea Rossi.
So, this part of your argument actually supports the opposite of what you're trying to prove.
51 posted on 11/17/2011 8:18:32 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo
Here's a simpler explanation of the reaction, showing how 5 grams of transmuted nickel could generate 10 kW of thermal heat for 6 months, assuming 50% efficiency transforming the nuclear energy to heat:

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473

60 posted on 11/17/2011 8:50:54 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Kevmo; All
Here's a simpler explanation of the reaction, showing how 5 grams of transmuted nickel could generate 10 kW of thermal heat for 6 months, assuming 50% efficiency transforming the nuclear energy to heat:

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473

61 posted on 11/17/2011 8:51:04 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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