Posted on 11/16/2011 12:43:59 PM PST by ScaniaBoy
In Europe things are getting uglier and uglier. The economy is in a free fall and the EU will try to use the crisis for yet another power grab, reducing our national democracies to nought. In the toy parliament, the democratic fig leaf of the European Union, only one man is speaking for the peoples: Nigel Farage.
So, they should pay for it, but not dominate it? Europe some charity? And when did Germany become a not for profit?
They didn't "pay for it". Stop listening to their propaganda. And get a sense of history.
So, they should pay for it, but not dominate it?
Who said they SHOULD pay?
The best solution for everybody would be for Germany, maybe in conjuntion with some other countries like Finland, Austria, the Netherlands to leave the Eurozone. But understand this; Germany cannot be in a currency union and benefit hugely from the currency pegs and at the same time refuse to pay for it. Can’t have your cake and eat it to.
Uh, they bankroll the EU.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8036097.stm
Maybe it’s ‘translation difficulties’, but I’ve detected an increasingly imperious tone - and sometimes a hint of ‘veiled threat’ - in Merkel’s utterances over the past couple of months....
It has me looking for Germany to execute a naked power grab over the EU in the near-to-intermediate future....
Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??
Judging by Germany’s two previous attempts to execute a naked power grab in Europe, I’d say it’s a bad thing.
No, every member state of the EU does no matter whether in the euro currency or not, including Britain. The ECB manipulates interest rates in Germany's favor. The BBC will publish pro-German and anti-British propaganda nowadays, so be careful what articles you use out of them.
Uh, they bankroll the EU
Bad thing. The EU is Germany's baby to begin with, and they designed it just like the USSR for the purpose of doing away with accountability.
It has me looking for Germany to execute a naked power grab over the EU in the near-to-intermediate future....
Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??
God bless nigel farage. The best part of any of his wondeful speeches is watching the reactions of the “men” he is gelding in public. He hates belgians so badly lol
They bankroll the EU with what? Borrowed money? Get your head out of the sand. Germany is a shithole just like the rest of them. Why are they so insistant of perserving the EU if everyone else is such a drag on them?
No, every member state of the EU does no matter whether in the euro currency or not, including Britain.No, Germany has always paid more than anybody else in the EU, even if you control for population.
“Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??”
The real question is would Europe be better off in the current regime or under, say, Emperor Charles V or another Habsburg?
I’d go with the Emperor.
Why, why, if those Germans don’t stop dominating us we’ll stop accepting their money. Yes! That’s right. We will balance our budgets and live within our means. That’ll show ‘em.
The real question is would Europe be better off in the current regime or under, say, Emperor Charles V or another Habsburg?
I’d go with the Emperor.
No thank you. No emperor. I come from a country that fought and beat the Habsburgs. Don't think it would be a good idea for anyone to try to impose that regime on us. The best thing would be for the EU to break up in a reasonably ordered fashion, and then those countries that were interested could join the free trade organization EFTA.
Do I believe that is the way things will play out? No, I fear that our politicians will lean more towards maintaining the staus quo, and in the worst case they will try to go for another Habsburg empire. That would cause bloodshed and mayhem. The EU may have been conceived as a peace project (not really, but let's pretend), but it risks being the cause of yet another major European conflagration.
For once I hope I'll be proven wrong.
When does Germany have to start balancing their own budget? Why should Italy balance theior budget when Germany won’t, just because the ECB is rigged to keep Germany’s interest rates artificially low while it soaks every other country one by one? Eventually, Germany and the Euro technocrats are going to run out of everyone else’s money. Socialism always does.
. . . according to Germany.
Germany has always paid more than anybody else in the EU
The difference is the Habsburgs tried to enrich their people so they could take some of it rather than the current regime that seeks to destroy their people so that they can tighten the screws of control. Obviously, government closest to the people is the best, but it was an either or comparison. I’d rather have a relatively benevolent dictatorship with a sense of nationalism than a destructive one. And England is about one or two more waves of Muslim immigration from being better off under the Tudors.
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