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1 posted on 11/15/2011 2:35:04 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So who is lying, the Grand Jury or McQueary?


2 posted on 11/15/2011 2:37:24 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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So at what point when he stills sees this monster walking free does he not question what is going on at the university? If he is telling the truth to his friend, then this problem really does run deep. Probably right up to political offices.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 2:38:40 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve got a pole for you POS.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 2:39:02 PM PST by allmost
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"McQueary also wrote that he "is getting hammered..."

Poor Mikey. Where's the sympathy for the kids who were, "getting nailed"?

6 posted on 11/15/2011 2:43:53 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Tell it the DA... If you can find him!


7 posted on 11/15/2011 2:44:57 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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So...he went into that showe and made Sandusky stop? He took the boy to safety? Like to the police?

He talked with the police?

If he did those things, then he did what was right.

But he allegeldly says in the email...””I did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room.”

That, BTW, was not in the grand jury testimony. Here is the way that reads:

According to the grand jury report, the graduate assistant said he saw a boy, whose age he estimated at 10 years old, “being subjected to anal intercourse” by a naked Sandusky in a shower at the Penn State football building in March 2002. The graduate assistant left “immediately,” was “distraught” and called his father, according to the presentment. His father told him to leave the building and come to his home, according to the presentment.

According to the grand jury report, McQueary spoke with Head Coach Joe Paterno the day after the alleged incident and later met with athletic director Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, vice president for finance and business.

So, which is it?

It sounds like he is saying that he must have yelled at Sandusky and saw him stop.

That’s better than nothing, but if he then left the boy there...it was not enough, nnot by a long shot.

I do not care how “incredibly difficult” the decisions weere. Or how “fast” he had to make them. They should not have been difficult at all. if you see a 10 year old boy being raped by a full grown man, you stop it and you get the child away from danger.

He says also that he talked to police...apparently the campus police. That opens up a whole new can of worms. Why didn’t they do anything about this?

We already know that the football program basically turned a blind eye to it, as well as the admin. Did they get the campus police to do nothing?

This gets deeper and deeper.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 2:47:13 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Campus police involved in a cover-up?

They just crossed the $100 mil threshold for THIS lawsuit.

Not to mention all the criminal charges that will result.

19 posted on 11/15/2011 3:10:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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This is real simple. What does he mean by “he stopped it”?

Did he walk up to Sandusky and pull him off the kid and then take the kid away from Sandusky when he saw the alleged rape? Did he call the police?

Someone is lying.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 3:15:52 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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It all comes down to the school and the football program, if we cover it with dirt no one will notice


22 posted on 11/15/2011 3:19:39 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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One of these little beauties, hopefully a Christmas present this year for old grand grandpa, would have come in very handy and would have been entirely appropriate in the situation described in the article.

25 posted on 11/15/2011 3:31:00 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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What specifically did you do, Mr. McQueary, that prevented Sandusky from getting his hands on this same kid or another the very next day?


31 posted on 11/15/2011 4:03:14 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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This story won’t wash. The Grand Jury was specific and detailed in their report. McQueary now recognizes that he will be regarded as a coward for the rest of his life, making future employment in his chosen profession all but impossible. Therefore, he is changing his story...


33 posted on 11/15/2011 4:13:17 PM PST by LSUfan
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If true, this pushes the timeline of police/public knowledge much closer to the disappearance of Ray Gricar. (2005)


43 posted on 11/16/2011 5:27:56 AM PST by 2ndamendmentpa
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After Gricar disappeared, did McQueary go to the Feds....?

If not, why not? Don't ask, don't tell...?

45 posted on 11/16/2011 5:39:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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Sorry but this case needs to go to court. Now if true, the police are the ones who let Sandusky off and not Penn State. There is so much information out that and questions that need answered. For example, McQueary went to the police, what was the result of the investigation? The Governor of Pennsylvania was the Attorney General of Pennsylvania and investigated this case. What was found? Why didn’t Sandusky get arrested at that time? Why is Penn States getting bashed if the police have been involved throughout this entire disgusting episode? There are some very unanswered questions. This definitely needs to go to court so these questions are answered.


46 posted on 11/16/2011 5:42:18 AM PST by napscoordinator
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He stopped it by sticking his fingers in his ears.


47 posted on 11/16/2011 5:44:47 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Regarding “Did he stop it”

Its been reported that both Sandusky and The Victim saw McCleary..he knew he had been caught.

So - I have to think, the mere fact that they knew they had been caught would break it up.

I cant imagine that Sandusky just kept plugging away, even after he knew he had been caught red-handed.

Also - and I hate to broach this subject, but there has to be the remote possibility that the victim had been concentual...and not a forced rape. That does not diminish the evil, but might have left McQueary a bit confused about what he had witnessed.

Regardless - in either case, it would seem that there was no immediate concern for the kid.


49 posted on 11/16/2011 6:24:45 AM PST by 2ndamendmentpa
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