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To: DannyTN
"If it weren’t for the illegals, he’s be raising his rate until an American would take the job."

You can pay well above minimum wage and still not get an american to take the job. Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

Guess this guy should simply go out of business and join the doles. That'll show us. That, or we can end the 2+ years of unemployment pay and seemingly endless government handouts, which will encourage the lazy to get a job, even if it is a dirty job.

15 posted on 11/15/2011 10:34:10 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
You can pay well above minimum wage and still not get an american to take the job. Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

I wonder if this mindset is part of the reason we are in the situation we face in our economy? There are more than a few companies that have discovered that there is more to "compensation" than money and insurance: employees with skin in the game in general work harder. This goes under the guise of "profit sharing", "employee ownership", "product/process/cost improvement bonus", and similar methods to reward hard work, particular if that hard work brings in more.

Who knows, that catfish gutter may come up with an idea to increase productivity, product quality, and profitability. Encourage him to speak up, and reward him appropriately.

27 posted on 11/15/2011 10:44:57 AM PST by asinclair (Talk is cheap, actions are priceless)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???”

Let the market decide.


30 posted on 11/15/2011 10:48:16 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
" Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish"

Have you ever handled a Catfish? They are not the easiest fish to handle. These workers are basically butchers. They deserve more than minimum wage.

32 posted on 11/15/2011 10:48:53 AM PST by moehoward
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

As much as it takes to solve his staffing problems with legal workers.

Guess this guy should simply go out of business and join the doles. That'll show us.

That's a hell of a lot better than the bastard artificially depressing the labor market with illegals, and providing camouflage for business-killing regulatory excesses by the powers that be.

You don't want to pay market rate for catfish? Don't buy it.

42 posted on 11/15/2011 10:59:17 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
You can pay well above minimum wage and still not get an american to take the job. Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

The market sets the price. If you offer less than the market deems appropriate, you don't get any takers. Obviously at some hourly rate prospective employees will be lined up at the door.

When governments regulate and otherwise distort markets, a side effect is often that market participants find ways to reduce their costs and avoid the true costs of the market. Hiring illegal employees is one way to do this, as would be paying wages in cash so that the employees don't have to report and pay taxes. Other even more unsavory schemes are used in other markets to obtain cut rate labor.

One way to reduce labor costs, if that is your goal, is to increase the supply of people who need or want to work. Reducing benefits to the non-working is one good approach as you noted.

Another way to do this would be to create a new, streamlined visa process for immigrants sponsored by an employer who would be responsible for their support while they are in the USA. These workers would no doubt be ready to gut fish all day, but they wouldn't be as cheap and easily manipulated and exploited as illegal immigrants. I doubt the fish processor would support such a plan.

54 posted on 11/15/2011 11:09:17 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
"Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???"

Whatever the market bears.

Guess this guy should simply go out of business and join the doles.

Why should be owe it to this guy to keep him in business? And especially by allowing him to break the law? If he can't hire cheaply and others can, he deserves to go out of business.

But the rules should be the same for everybody. Not enforcing the rules just drives the honest law abiding people out of business. This guy who is hiring the illegals has probably already driven honest employers who were hiring Americans out of business.

60 posted on 11/15/2011 11:16:19 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

It's smelly, nasty, and unpleasant, especially when you don't catch them yourself. :)

I agree about ending a lot of the government handouts, but there is a reason roofers, miners, trash collectors, and even the most basic assembly line workers don't get paid minimum wage. Just because labor is "unskilled" doesn't mean it's not hard work. It's not for everybody, and many folks aren't tough enough to handle it.

66 posted on 11/15/2011 11:21:36 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Just how much do you think an unskilled worker should be paid to gut a catfish???

Enough until the locals take the job, or others move there to do the work. If I'm an unskilled worker in NYC, I might not find a job. It sounds like there is a need for laborers in Uniontown, AL though...

89 posted on 11/15/2011 11:53:33 AM PST by Mr.Unique (Very generic, non-offensive, tagline.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
You can pay well above minimum wage and still not get an american to take the [cold catfish-skinning] job.

Well, given that unemployment will pay you about the same to sit around whining that you can't find a job, which would you do? Skin catfish in a freezer for half a day, or stay home emailing CVs for half an hour a day?

94 posted on 11/15/2011 11:59:46 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
You can pay well above minimum wage and still not get an american to take the job.

Got any cites that support this assertion?

116 posted on 11/15/2011 12:52:55 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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