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Cain stumbles on Libya question (Also, Backs Collective Bargaining for Public Employees)
Journal Sentinel Online ^ | 11-14-2011 | Don Walker

Posted on 11/14/2011 2:37:38 PM PST by TitansAFC

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1 posted on 11/14/2011 2:37:41 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Where did the other thread go?


2 posted on 11/14/2011 2:38:22 PM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9)
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To: Huck

It was mine. It got pulled for some reason.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 2:39:01 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Huck

I heard it got pulled for an incorrect title - though the two sites have changed the titles of their own articles, so it may be a matter of timing.


4 posted on 11/14/2011 2:39:49 PM PST by TitansAFC (Stop the caINSANITY, The Pizza guy is less qualified than Obama!!! No New taxes!!)
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To: TitansAFC

Herman Cain at the I Stand with Scott Walker rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
Employee Free Choice Act is really forced unionization
The federal government impedes economic growth by interfering in the employer and employee relationship. While labor unions once provided a representative body to lobby for fair wages and safe working conditions, they now principally serve as a political mechanism for the Left. Forced unionization through the dishonestly named “Employee Free Choice Act,” or “card check,” would drive up the costs of goods & services, cause jobs to be lost and a more powerful system of liberal fundraising to be maintained.
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011

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Card-Check is union intimidation, not free choice
When someone takes the time to actually read the proposed “Card Check” legislation (H.R. 800), you will discover that many of the proponents of this legislation have lied.

Currently, the employees vote directly twice, one of which is the secret ballot, and a third time through their bargaining representatives. Under the proposed rules, the employees would sign a card and then they are totally out of the process from that point on. Proponents think that’s “free choice.”

Proponents have also alleged that employers intimidate employees into not joining a union. That’s ridiculous, because most employers work at trying to keep their workers happy for competitive reasons and because it enhances employee morale. I personally know of many more stories of union intimidation of employees than instances of employer intimidation.

Workers have every right to unionize if they choose to do so, but employers have some rights also. They have the right to simply shut the doors.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009

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Union Bosses Unleash On Herman Cain For Targeting Unions’ Sacred Cows
To qualify for zone status under Cain’s plan, a given jurisdiction will have to enact policies the unions consider anathema – such as the elimination of the minimum wage, the provision of school vouchers, or the declaration of a zone as a “right-to-work” area.

Leading figures in organized labor swiftly attacked the Cain proposal.

Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa told Fox News in an emailed statement: “Herman Cain’s ‘Opportunity Zones’ appear to be an opportunity for corporate America to exploit workers and turn the United States into a third-world country.”
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/


5 posted on 11/14/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: TitansAFC

It got pulled for the same reason this one will get pulled. Why are you reposting already pulled threads?


6 posted on 11/14/2011 2:42:51 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: TitansAFC

How many new jobs in US will be created with intimate knowledge of Libyan situation?

How does Libyan situation affect US Strategic interests?
Will Libya continue to sell oil regardless of who wins?

Does one need access to CIA and military intelligence to really know what is going on?


7 posted on 11/14/2011 2:43:51 PM PST by federal__reserve (Obama Vs Perry presidential debates are my worst nightmare! Those will get huge audiences.)
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To: BenKenobi

Why, exactly, do you think this thread should be pulled?


8 posted on 11/14/2011 2:44:00 PM PST by TitansAFC (Stop the caINSANITY, The Pizza guy is less qualified than Obama!!! No New taxes!!)
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To: federal__reserve

Remember the BS when they asked W who the President of Taiwan was, or other crap like that? They never ask those kind of questions to Rat candidates.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 2:45:00 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: TitansAFC

I am calling B.S. On the Urinal Seminal report, and would like to hear a tape. There is NO WAY Cain is in favor of collective bargaining. Americans for Prosperity is the primary force behind Scott Walker and they are supporting Cain.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 2:46:13 PM PST by montag813
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PHILOSOPHIC QUESTION:

If government is so pure and altruistic so that it ALWAYS looks out for our best interests, why is a public employee union even necessary?

Herman lost my vote on that issue.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 2:47:55 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: TitansAFC

Why are you reposting pulled threads?


12 posted on 11/14/2011 2:48:03 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: TitansAFC

Cain either doesn’t think fast on his feet or he is not well informed on a few key conservative issues. Originally, I didn’t think his political inexperience would be a big deal, but I may rethink that position. I don’t give Perry a break on his poor debate prep and performance. And I’m not giving Cain a break on his repeated misstatements with follow-up clarifications.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 2:48:11 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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What exeactly did he say wrong? He just took his time answering the question. Shame on him for having all the issues and answers in his head. If his Libya answer was on a teleprompter he would have done better I guess.


14 posted on 11/14/2011 2:48:11 PM PST by pfflier
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He believes public employees should be allowed to bargain collectively on wages and other benefits as long as it does not create an undue burden on taxpayers.

Undue burden? WTF? When the taxpayers are not represented at the table, how the heck is that "undue burden"?

Then again, this is a libturd rag, so I trust the reporting about as far as I can throw a fit.

15 posted on 11/14/2011 2:50:17 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management.)
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To: BenKenobi

The pulled thread said it got pulled for having the wrong title. This one seems to have the correct title.

I, for one, think that it is important for us to know what Cain’s position is in support of public unions. If he supports them, I will not support him, because nobody at the public union bargaining table will be there to support the taxpayer.

That’s strike two in my book, since Cain has already indicated that in his view, we don’t need to be worried about the Fed. (More bargains the Taxpayer is not allowed to be privy to...)


16 posted on 11/14/2011 2:50:42 PM PST by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: TitansAFC

Cain is stumbling badly today. This is painful to watch.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68337.html


17 posted on 11/14/2011 2:50:51 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: BenKenobi

The previous thread was pulled for an incorrect title. WTH is wrong with posting it again with the correct title?


18 posted on 11/14/2011 2:51:11 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

It’s a hit piece, which is why it was instantly reposted after getting pulled already. Tells you everything you need to know.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 2:51:30 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: TitansAFC

It’s The Urinal Sentinel! Wadda ya expect?


20 posted on 11/14/2011 2:52:43 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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