Posted on 11/13/2011 11:28:03 AM PST by Maceman
Any parents of young teenage girls want to offer advice on how to raise their daughters when this kind of stuff is all over the radio, and is the rage among these kids?
I won't post the lyrics here out of deference to FR posting rules, but read them here:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/where-them-girls-at-lyrics-nicki-minaj.html.
And here: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nickiminaj/superbass.html
I'd caution that these lyrics aren't appropriate for kids, except they probably already know them.
No, my daughter doesn't listen to talk radio, but the radio stations she does listen to: country, old rock, and Christian rock and rap bands...don't play songs with those sorts of lyrics either.
When she was younger,I bought her the CDs of artists she liked,even though I didn't care for them, as long as the lyrics were acceptable.
I'm sure she hears the crap. She might even listen to some of it, when she is away from our home.
But I give a lot of credit to her youth group pastor for tackling the topic head on, and reinforcing what I said at home. Music is beautiful and can alter your mood. Why purposely choose to listen to ugly, demeaning or depressing lyrics?
“I must have missed that”.
Actually, I think if you played the record BACKWARDS... you could hear those lyrics. /s
Perhaps you guys should not only listen to Led Zeppelin to see how obscene their lyrics were, but should also check out a band called the Doors.
The Doors just recently released a song called The End.
Okay, so they released the song around 45 years ago.
In that song, the singer, Jim Morrison tells us that he wants to kill his Father and that he was to do something unmentionable to his Mother.
Get a grip.
We survived Robert Plant telling us that he wants to give a virgin every inch of his love and sodomize her and we survived Jim Morrison telling us that he wanted to ____________ his mother.
“40 years ago 13-year-old girls were turning on the radio and hearing (and singing)”
Read the lyrics to Whole Lotta Love
Read the lyrics to The End.
13 year old girls were listening to those songs 40 years ago
Catholic school. 1984. 8th grade. “Darling Nikki” by Prince.
We’re still working our daughter in that direction. We’ve all but banned hip hop in the house, and she knows not to play it. Thankfully she primarily listens to country. Lately she’s been trying some of the Christian rock.
Her 30-year old dad prefers Sinatra and George Strait. I hope it eventually rubs off. :)
Seriously, Sinatra was so much better than these clowns running around today.
I read an interview with the band on this song. I actually like this song. It is a social commentary. Considering what happens in the world today, I think songs like this are good because they open up dialog, unlike other songs that just use the f-bomb.
I heard a song at the gym the other day and said I liked it. The trainer I was talking to told me I wouldn’t like it if I heard the cut that wasn’t “cleaned up.” It’s the Gnarls Barkley song where he said “forget you” in the cleaned version but uses another “f” word in the one that is on the album. I was horrified. I exclaimed that it completely ruined the song for me to know that the original has that word. There is NO reason to use it. The forget you worked just fine in the meaning of the song.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, another person at the gym - a gal probably in her 30s - overhearing the conversation between myself and the trainer - interjected that nobody would buy it if it was “forget you.” I just said that was baloney and I’d buy it if it were clean. The fact that so many people have bought into the mindset that people will not purchase stuff unless it’s filthy or risque is a myth. So pathetic to see so many mindless folks.
I’m so glad you pointed this out. I think music has degraded quite a bit. There is just so much MORE of it and hip-hop and rap is the worst. But there was a lot of bad stuff back then. L-Z is just one good example. I saw a documentary a few years back called Hell’s Bells. It really woke me up to the whole concept of music and where the word music comes from. Music can be angelic or demonic. Words have meaning.
So many kids today are depressed and I blame much of it on the depressing and horrible music. I mean, “She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah” morphed into “White Punks on Dope” which morphed into “Me So Horny” and so on.... arrrrgh!
The difference is, with those aforementioned songs, they weren’t considered “Top 40” songs in the mainstream.
There’s another song by Pink, called “F’ing Perfect”....they play the cleaned-up version on the radio, but it begged the question, what was the point of having the F-Bomb in the title in the first place? It had nothing to do with the say, At least with the Cee-Lo song, having that word in it served a purpose.
At least “White Punks on Dope” was meant to ridicule the object of the song.
Ugh. I saw an Ellen DeGeneres show the other day and there was a little girl on there who was all pumped up over Nikki/Nicki Minaj. I had NO idea who this Nikki/Nicki? Minaj was. I looked her up since the little girl on Ellen’s show was about six years ago. I find out how disgusting her songs are. What mom would listen to that and then let her child listen? I don’t care if the lyrics are cleaned up, it makes the kid a FAN of the person pushing that. Anyway, I see she’s on this horrible song about “Where Dem Girls At?”
It’s as bad as drugs, this music. They’ve done studies on this music and found that it does impact the kids who listen. Satan is so clever. He packages his evil in sparkly packages with sexy men and women who wear trendy clothes; men and women who are the cause celeb of the day and then people like Ellen (who comes across as so likable) push it on their shows as well.
Yeah, good point; but how many kids really saw that? It turns something serious into something comedic.
“six years ago” should be “six years old.”
His song "Too Drunk" was a bit racy, as well.
No, it is just an art form called music.
When I was growing-up, my parents never censored my the music that I listened to or that I bought. As a parent, I do not censor the music my kids listen to or buy.
And I turned out okay and my kids are turing out great.
However, the Nanny State Sycophants like Tipper Gore and her cohorts who do not believe that their children can handle music as an art form, want to dictate what music my kids and I can enjoy.
How about if we treat music like any other consumer product and let the market dictate what music is successful?
And those who believe today’s music is more obscene than it was 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago are delusional.
I don’t know about the other posters posting on this thread, but I am a Christian. I believe the Bible. God tells us that whatever is lovely, pure, noble, good, that we are to THINK on THOSE things. Today’s music is so lacking in any of that. There is still good music and I don’t mind social commentary, but the songs that glorify raping women, orgies, and the like, well, we are going to reap what has been sown. The worst of it is that people are paying money for this garbage. I can’t think of anything more foolish.
My kids corrected me on that one. I thought it was a fun upbeat song. I didn’t clearly hear the lyrics at first. But, then they told me the lyrics — needless to say I was a bit embarrassed about that one. Kind of sick that the music group would use such peppy music to mask these very dark lyrics.
“They’ve done studies on this music and found that it does impact the kids who listen.”
Who are “They” and what studies have they conducted that would show that the children of today or negatively impacted by certain songs?
And please cite evidence that songs of today or more offensive than they were 30 or 40 years ago.
And please do not cite Tipper Gore.
I disagree with you. My parents never censored any of my music, but I blame that more on their naivete and the fact that they were clueless that music was starting to be so perverted. Of course, most of it was NOT.
When my son was in school, the only music I ever took from him was 2 Live Crew. I destroyed that garbage with pleasure! I always cautioned him to consider the way he spent his money and whether he really wanted to make people rich who sang perverted music.
I also found a porn movie my son got from one of his buddies. He had it in a sleeve for The Sound of Music or something innocuous and I plugged it in thinking I’d be seeing Maria Von Trapp. Oy Vey! So, I destroyed that; found out where he got it from; called that kid’s mom and she said “Good! I would have done the same.” I never allowed cable television in the home because I didn’t want my kid watching the crud on MTV either.
All good parents practice censorship with their children. They are vulnerable and not ready to necessarily know they are being manipulated or propagandized.
I disagree with you strongly on this topic. Do as you wish, but I prefer to live according to God’s precepts.
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