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Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United States
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 12 hours ago | By David Pugliese

Posted on 11/13/2011 10:13:55 AM PST by drewh

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To: TwoSwords
I think it has been proven, on this site, that an EMP attack isn’t really feasible.

Link(s)?

21 posted on 11/13/2011 10:58:19 AM PST by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: drewh

A small naval vessel can’t carry a missile big enough. Something like a Standard Missile doesn’t fly high enough. You need an IRBM at least, and there aren’t many ships that can carry them.

I won’t get into details, but there aren’t many merchant vessels that can carry them, and we know where they are all. If you’re idling off the coast to erect a missile, you will be found.


22 posted on 11/13/2011 11:04:07 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Durus
People that don't take EMPs seriously don't know enough about them.

And people who don't know enough about EMPs (that's at least 75% of the population) should read this very believable fiction book, "One Second After."

You'll think twice the next time you go to the grocery store.

23 posted on 11/13/2011 11:04:36 AM PST by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Durus

How many people would die in the ensuing chaos after an EMP attack? Lots. Law and order would break down. No telling how even solid citizens would behave once they (or their kids) got hungry. And it would take years for our infrastructure to recover. Wouldn’t surprise me if we lost greater than 20% of our population even without nukes.


24 posted on 11/13/2011 11:10:18 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81
Its the "nine meal rule". Could be three days, could be five. But most of America does not have more than nine meals, following that scraps and finally looting and scavenging.
Want to reduce the time to start social decline early? Cut power.

To be honest, I'm not so worried about the cold where I live (it will suck, but we can survive). What I worry about is no power and trying to keep food safe in the summer.

25 posted on 11/13/2011 11:18:30 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: drewh

Zer0 would NEVER allow Iran to EMP us - he would rather we devolve into a Marxist state than let it happen.


26 posted on 11/13/2011 11:24:16 AM PST by C210N (zer0 - a Marxonist spreading the flames of obamunism wherever he goes.)
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To: upchuck

I preferred “Lights Out” as has more useful information but “One Second Afer” isn’t bad.


27 posted on 11/13/2011 11:26:16 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: drewh
what are they gonna do... launch it from a ship???
28 posted on 11/13/2011 11:30:19 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TwoSwords

It hasn’t been disproven at all. In order for an EMP to be effective it has to be very high altitude not low altitude. It’s the cascade effect that make it so powerful. Think of it as an electric avalanche via Compton Scattering.


29 posted on 11/13/2011 11:36:12 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Chode
Have the Chinese launch it as a weather satellite.
30 posted on 11/13/2011 11:38:36 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: upchuck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2785610/posts


31 posted on 11/13/2011 11:43:06 AM PST by TwoSwords
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To: Texas Fossil

Something would have to go.

Within minutes of an attack like that, we would have x-ray and gamma ray spectrography on the device.

We would know who built it, where it was built, and probably when.

They wouldn’t be building any more after that, that’s fer sure...


32 posted on 11/13/2011 11:49:23 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Durus
and traceable directly back to them???
33 posted on 11/13/2011 12:04:31 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Durus

I think if it was possible it would’ve been used by now.


34 posted on 11/13/2011 12:05:26 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: beebuster2000

>>>you really think the US would actually use nukes on a city, even tehran, on a strike basis? i dont.<<<

I’m with you, at least with the current bunch running things. I really think the American side would apologize to Iran, declare martial law, and get about with the business of redistributing things for the recreated country. At least they would try.... and that would have unpredictable consequences.


35 posted on 11/13/2011 12:15:25 PM PST by redpoll
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To: GAB-1955
EMP is not that successful a weapon. You’d have to detonate a fairly high power bomb hundreds of kilometers above the surface to cover the continent. If you have that powerful a bomb, you might as well drop it on New York or Washington. The Air Force and Navy know how to secure gear against EMP, and we’d have lots of warning.

Please reconsider.

As I wrote on this thread:

Try this and the links therein.

From this thread.

Cheers!

and

Read this and associated links.

All you need is a small fission device: it is the gamma ray flux which causes Compton scattering (electrons knocked out of the atoms / molecules in the upper atmosphere) which travel at relativistic speeds, and interact with the Earth's magnetic field.

The design of the bomb, and the casing, can enhance the proportion of the weapon's energy which is released as gamma radiation: and by designing the case properly one can focus the gamma rays "downward" to the ground.

A fission weapon, according to these sources, will still be quite a good source of EMP: it is not directly a function of notional yield.

Cheers!

36 posted on 11/13/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Texas Fossil
EMP attack by Iran = Glass Parking Lot paved in Tehran

Correction: EMP attack by Iran = two page stern warning letter from the UN instead of the usual one page warning letter.

37 posted on 11/13/2011 12:19:24 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: drewh

Obama wouldn’t nuke his muslim brothers.


38 posted on 11/13/2011 12:41:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: rbg81

We’d lose half our population, at least.

People don’t know how to take care of themselves. They don’t learn anyhting useful or plan ahead. They’ll start killing each other for a can of creamed corn.

Do it in winter and at least half are dead by summer.


39 posted on 11/13/2011 12:46:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: drewh
Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S. (12/09/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2640111/posts

‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela (17 May 2011)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721122/posts


40 posted on 11/13/2011 12:53:19 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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