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Herman Cain leading several polls for GOP nomination: 9-9-9 overshadowing gaffes, scandal
The New York Daily News ^ | November 12, 2011 | Jonathan Lemire

Posted on 11/12/2011 9:09:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It might be time to stop laughing at Herman Cain.

His presidential campaign, once considered a vanity project designed to sell copies of his new book, continues to chug along the tracks, refusing to be derailed by scandal or the lack of a well-organized staff.

Cain has a lead in a handful of national polls over the heavily favored Mitt Romney — and some political observers believe a once-unthinkable path to the Republican nomination could emerge for the charismatic former pizza CEO.

“No one believed he’d get as far as he has and yet he’s still in this thing,” said Charles Bullock, a political scientist at the University of Georgia, Cain’s home state. “A lot of voters see him as being authentic and a straight-talker,” added Bullock. “He’s not a politician, and that’s a strength right now.”

Cain’s engaging personality and catchy 9-9-9 flat tax plan have overshadowed his lack of experience on matters like foreign policy — and his surprising rise has been aided by his opponents’ weaknesses, pundits noted.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s already-legendary debate gaffe last week was just the latest in a series of self-inflicted wounds, while Romney remains unloved by much of the GOP’s conservative wing.

“Cain’s surge is partially due to the desires of conservatives and the Tea Party to find an alternative to Romney,” said Prof. Alan Abramowitz from Emory University in Atlanta. “Is it about Cain or is it that he’s not Romney?”

The route to a Cain nomination, no matter how unlikely, starts in one of two early battlegrounds: Iowa or South Carolina, politicos agreed.

“Both states are home to a lot of Evangelicals and social conservatives and while there are a lot of candidates vying for those votes, Cain is currently winning,” said Prof. Tim Hagle at the University of Iowa.

Because Cain is not expected to do well in Romney-loving New Hampshire, which sits between Iowa and South Carolina on the campaign calendar, he needs to finish strong in the Hawkeye State before winning down South, experts said.

An AARP-financed poll released Friday shows Cain ahead of Romney 25% to 22% in Iowa and 28% to 27% in South Carolina. Cain is running a close second in the next key state, Florida.

But pundits pointed out there’s a difference between polling well and actually winning votes — and insisted that Cain needs to invest in a more traditional ground game.

“He’s not mapping out a conventional strategy, he’s not setting up campaign staffs in the early primary states, and he himself isn’t even spending much time in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina,” said Robert Jackson, political science professor at Florida State University.

“He’s getting a lot of free advertising through the media now, but he’s going to have to spend real money to stay in the race,” added Abramowitz.

Cain is raking in the bucks, having raised $9 million since Oct. 1 — more than three times what he collected the entire summer.

But there are signs that the recent spate of sexual harassment claims against Cain are taking their toll. His poll numbers have begun to slip in Iowa and some pundits suspect he has already peaked.

“The conservatives first had a flirtation with [Michele\] Bachmann, then Perry, and now Cain,” said Abramowitz. “Maybe Newt Gingrich is next.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; gingrich; hermancain; iowa; perry; polls; romney; taxes; teaparty
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Rep. Michele Bachmann never led in polls, nationally, to my knowledge.
1 posted on 11/12/2011 9:09:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The highest Michele Bachmann avg. was 13%. At that time Romney was at 23%. Bachmann has never led.


2 posted on 11/12/2011 9:15:01 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: South40

She was leading in Iowa right after Mike Huckabee, wasn’t it? LOL


3 posted on 11/12/2011 9:16:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lotta drunk grumpy journalistas tonight, LOL...they thought they’d be celebrating his destruction, but he’s beating them. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!!...


4 posted on 11/12/2011 9:19:41 PM PST by thatdewd (Palin - Cain 2012)
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I’m waiting for them to pull out the homosexual or criminal card.


5 posted on 11/12/2011 9:21:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michele won the Iowa straw poll on 8/13 and was at 10/2% avg on that day. She was on her way down at that point and has dropped more since. She is currently at 3.7%.


6 posted on 11/12/2011 9:21:56 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: thatdewd
Lotta drunk grumpy journalistas tonight

lol!

7 posted on 11/12/2011 9:22:51 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“once considered”
“pundits noted.”
“politicos agreed.”
“experts said.”
“But pundits pointed out”
“said Robert Jackson”
“added Abramowitz.”

And although “some political observers believe”, it seems that not even “some” had something to “say”.


8 posted on 11/12/2011 9:29:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: South40
And now for something completely different...

The Howard University Chamber Choir's rendition of "Deep River" is an amazing piece of work.

Sometimes I listen to Christian music while reading these posts. The reasons should be obvious...

9 posted on 11/12/2011 9:32:53 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Gene Eric

I’m having a hard time tracing this business about saving a pretzel for the gas jets to what Perry supposedly intended to say. Maybe the drawl centers of my brain just aren’t working right in reverse. What was it Perry tried to say?


10 posted on 11/12/2011 10:06:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An AARP-financed poll released Friday shows Cain ahead of Romney 25% to 22% in Iowa and 28% to 27% in South Carolina. Cain is running a close second in the next key state, Florida.

Interesting. Would like to see who they polled.

11 posted on 11/12/2011 10:07:25 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If Perry had been asked about the Cain 999 plan, he would have said: 9, 9, .......what?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Well looks quite possible Cain will cross over to campground all right... not campground in like what the #Occupiers occupy, but in the heart of Washington DC.


12 posted on 11/12/2011 10:07:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is my prayer.


13 posted on 11/12/2011 10:11:02 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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Interesting. Would like to see who they polled

There are a lot of Cain supporters who don't do polls.

14 posted on 11/12/2011 10:11:13 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1. Get rid of Obama
2. Avoid RINOS (Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman)
3. Avoid lunatics (sorry Paul)
4. Select a tru-con (Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry)
5. Avoid media selecting candidates (like they are attempting to remove Cain, Bachmann, and Perry)

Fight for fairness. The contrived bimbo eruption attacking Herman Cain, the marginalizing of Rick, Rick and Bachmann.

Let the voters decide. My preference today: (1) Cain, (2) Bachmann, (3) Rick Santorum, and (4) Rick Perry.

This could all change with a brokered convention and drafting of Gov. Sarah Palin.


15 posted on 11/12/2011 10:18:19 PM PST by MN_Mike (Governor Sarah Palin for the win! Piper Palin for President 2036 (Biden: Gird YOUR loins))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cain’s bimbo ‘scandal’ seems to have dissipated. The damage it seems to have done is pull Cain down from having a clear lead to being roughly tied for the lead, at least in national polls.

The people organizing these attacks probably figure that Cain will continue to drop...but they have no clue how committed his supporters are. They will be very surprised as Cain goes back to the lead, simply by being Cain and drawing people back to him. It will be fun to watch.


16 posted on 11/12/2011 10:22:54 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL, in reality, it’s about nothing more than just some bad lip reading.


17 posted on 11/12/2011 10:30:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: Gene Eric

Fine, but what the dickens was he saying


18 posted on 11/12/2011 10:31:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It would be good to find out one day. Otherwise, I have absolutely no idea.


19 posted on 11/12/2011 10:37:19 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Meaning, they don’t tend to answer polls, I take it.

Response bias is a very difficult thing to overcome. Hypothetical mind readers would be able to pin down a population the size of America’s to within about one percent, with surprisingly few samples (only a thousand or so) if I remember my political science correctly. Gallup used to conduct polls that took extreme pains to exclude bias. The results were accurate, but chasing down all the samples took weeks. This isn’t helpful for getting a picture of opinion that changes with each news cycle.


20 posted on 11/12/2011 10:38:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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