Posted on 11/12/2011 2:25:13 PM PST by katiedidit1
Next GOP Debate Will Be Tonight
Published: 1:17 AM, 11/12/2011
Last updated: 1:22 AM, 11/12/2011
Source: The Greeneville Sun
The latest in the series of televised debates among the candidates for the Republican nomination for President is scheduled for tonight.
The debate is taking place at Wofford College in Spartanburg, S.C., and will focus on national security and foreign policy.
The debate is being hosted by CBS News and the National Jo urnal, and will begin at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the CBS Television Network.
(Excerpt) Read more at greenevillesun.com ...
I think Perry is proposing the Visa thing as a way to get those people into a tracking system.
Do you think Cains electric fence is a good idea?
But, I do agree that now is the time to pick the most conservative candidate we can. I'm partial to Newt. But Cain would work as well.
The "falling apart" theory is based upon the outcome of next year's election. A RINO or a Dem in the White House will virtually guarantee that the Executive Branch is going to spend the next four years tinkering around the edges of our degraded and debauched federal system - not making the difficult choices which MUST be made, to keep this nation from totally collapsing.
Many on this site (and elsewhere) have commented that, if Romney and Obama wind up facing off in the general election, they're going write in someone else for president, then go home to prepare for the worst. That's a very prevalent feeling amongst conservatives, and I resonate with it.
After watching the hubris and arrogance of the Obama mal-administration over the last three years, I harbor no illusions about what a RINO would do in that office. 'Hold his feet to the fire'? Let's not kid ourselves. Those who work for other masters don't give a damn about what the American people want, or how loudly we scream.
Actually, it's the Mayor of Tampa, FL.
My assessment of last night’s debate:
Whoever decided the last 30 minutes should not be shown on TV should be fired. That’s like not showing the 4th Quarter of the Super Bowl in favor of Heidi, I mean, come on SeeBS, you should know better.
Secondly, the Paulbots should watch out for John Hunstman, lol! Looks like he’s trying to make a case to steal some of Paul’s fanatical support. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. But didn’t look like the Paulbots were buying it. So if Huntsman can’t even get them, he’s toast, lol.
8. Huntsman (for reasons listed above)
7. Paul (at least he didn’t say 9/11 was our fault...no wait)
6. Perry (they scripted him.) With Law School exams coming up for my former colleagues, I wonder if writing a scripted response regardless of the question being asked is the best way to go? No? I didn’t think so.
5. Santorum (More, Me, Me, Me, I, I, I. Why Whine, Rick? You don’t have to convince the debate moderators, it’s the voters)
4. Bachmann (she did good, but it’s not going to get her anywhere. Again, I saw her take a slight jab at Perry in one of the questions, but she refuses to go after Romney)
3. Cain (Did what I expected. He’ll get a VP with FP experience to balance it out)
2. Romney (yeah, whatever. When he smiles at the person talking, that person should look at him and say: “What chu lookin at Williard?)
1. Gingrich (If Newt had his way, there would be a debate every week)
To me Obama while being totally Manchurian is a huge threat to the future of the nation.
His handlers want all socialism all the time and basically the end of capitalism. They want to gut every asset we have in the country and then hand it out as rewards to their minions.Then will introduce European socialism even faster than they are now.Meanwhile destroying us worldwide using the muzzie terror types to do their bidding.
To me none of our candidates parallel this.
It's such a huge election,so much at stake, IMHO, any of our candidates would be far better than zero and his handlers. I also have not given up on nominating a conservative candidate. Why would I.
We have a conservative in the lead now and Newt on the rise.If we work hard the potential is there to defeat not only the left but the rinos as well. Rinos are not warriors they are compromisers. They scare easily. We just have to keep them scared all the time.
I have no allusions. I fully realize we are at war with rinos and don't trust them but rather intend to dominate them, a little at first and all the time later. Incrementalism is the name of the game. It's what the commies did to us and now time for us to do to them.
Do you know jack about Six Sigma?!?!?! By definition, six sigma is better than one, two, three, four or even five sigma... it's pretty much the VERY BEST that systems can be improved to. And redundant systems to prevent errors is practically a cornerstone of Six Sigma.
Perry smacks his gaffe from the last debate away and puts it to rest.
Perry had MULTIPLE poor debates not just one little gaffe. And he was mediocre in this one... he only looked good compared to his previous debacles. Based on your six sigma statement and praise of Perry, you come across almost as intellectually challenged as he does.
No, I apologize and take that back... even though I think your statements a bit on the dumb side, at least they were coherent and understandable, so you're miles ahead of Perry.
The military is not a manufacturing business.
To treat it as one is a mistake IMHO.
In principle, I agree with you 100%.
However, when it comes to specific application of your principle, I completely disagree.
We don't need everyone to get behind one or even fewer candidates RIGHT NOW. What we need is the current battle to see who our best, most supported candidates are.
The time for each Republican voter to make his or her final decision is when their state holds its primary. THEN, it's time to check InTrade, current national polls, or whatever and vote ONLY for one of the two candidates most likely to win the nomination. Almost certainly this time around, that will be Romney and someone else, although there's a very slight chance it could be Cain and Gingrich with Romney in third.
BTW, I agree with you that Huntsman and Paul can't win. Too many conservative Republicans would never, ever, ever vote for them. I don't agree that Bachmann and Santorum can't win... they're unlikely to win, but I think that, like me, many conservatives agree with them on principle and would be turn their support to them if Cain and Gingrich somehow imploded.
I'm surprised you don't have Perry on your can't win list. I know plenty of conservatives, including myself, who agree with him on principle, but would never, ever, ever support him, for reasons cleverly pointed out in your tagline. As much as I dislike Romney, at this point, there's a 60-40 chance I'd vote for Romney if he and Perry were the two leaders when my state votes. I don't see that happening though.
My current preferences/rankings:
Gingrich
huge gap
Cain, slightly ahead of
Bachmann, slightly ahead of
Santorum
huge gap squared
Romney, slightly ahead of
Perry
huge gap cubed
Paul, slightly ahead of
Huntsman
No offense intended, but once again, you are demonstrating ignorance of what Six Sigma is. It is NOT exclusively a manufacturing tool, it only has that reputation because it has been primarily USED by manufacturing companies.
Six Sigma is a PROCESS IMPROVEMENT TOOL that can be used with great effectiveness on any measurable process. For example, Six Sigma is one of the primary tools used by the Ritz-Carlton to help them achieve world-class customer service.
Nothing screams for Six Sigma more than outdated systems and processes bogged down by red tape and bureaucracy. Can you tell me with a straight face that the military doesn't have any of that?
And like any toolbox, each individual tool needs to be applied correctly when the right situation warrants it, and some tools are needed more frequently and can be applied more easily than others.
I build systems that have to operate on the edge of space.
There is only so much skrimping you can do on something that has to operate in those conditions.
Bean counters think they have the answer to every thing.
Your way works too. I would just like to (a) see a little more clarity a little sooner, and (b) present a united front against the media, the Democrats, and Obama, a little sooner.
I agree that the vetting process is important. I agree that some of the “lower tier” candidates have merit, but so did 8-track tapes. ;-)
I don't personally think Perry is electable, but I keep him in the running because I don't know what the general public is thinking, he has a LOT of money with which to re-brand himself and pull a rabbit out of his hat, and I'm allowing room for the racist votes of not-Romney that won't go to Cain because he's black, and the votes that won't go to Gingrich because of his so-called baggage.
Between Cain, Gingrich, and Perry, I have my personal preferences, but if my choice(s) aren't in the top two come election day, I will definitely support the strongest GOP candidate.
I believe it is imperative that we get behind our candidate, whoever that turns out to be, 100%. I absolutely agree with Gingrich that ANY of our candidates is monumentally better than Obama, and we should support “our own” completely — whoever that turns out to be.
United we stand.
Divided we fall.
Six Sigma pros share your disdain for both.
Previous post should read "you are", not "your are".
I have seen plenty of black belts who didn’t have a clue.
And I never claimed to be a Six Sigma expert.
I like a lot of Dr W Edward Demings ideas, but I don’t think they are all a good fit for the military.
All along, if asked who I'm supporting, he's always been my preference, but I would always name first the non-Romney candidate doing best in the polls. (Exception: I never supported Perry though I was open to it and would have done though enthusiastically if he could have strung together a couple of good debates.)
Do you really think there are conservative (non-Romney) Republicans who won't vote for Cain because he's black? I suppose there HAS to be one or two somewhere, but in my experience most of the racists I've ever met have been apolitical or liberal.
My gut feeling is that there is enough support for either Cain, Gingrich or both to outdo Romney, and that if they falter it would benefit Bachmann and Santorum but not Perry. Polls show a LOT of indecision among GOP primary voters, but I don't think that includes Perry any longer. I know I've decided about him.
By in large, you and I are pretty much in agreement, as I agree with Gingrich also.
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