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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Electric vehicles are only incrementally advanced after over a century of work;internal combustion engines have been proven far more useful in the real world.

ALL these government mandates for electric cars should be scrapped;if electric cars are ever to be viable it will be inspite of, not because of, government.All government programs have done is waste billions of dollars proving pigs can’t fly.

The so-called enviros have touted electric cars since the mid-70s and the truth is they just are horrible in terms of economics and enviromental damage.

Hybrid cars are simply a way of better managing the output of the internal combustion engine through temporary load shifting and secondary power storage.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 5:27:30 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

“Limited Range” is the whole reason the elite are pushing electric cars.

You can’t control people that can travel hundreds of miles in a few hours.


32 posted on 11/11/2011 5:29:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: hoosierham

I’m actually having fun tech-wise using a small amount of this sort of thing in my own life.

I don’t ask government to help me. I don’t do it because the government told me I should. It’s just for a hobby. Same reason I’ve started using a couple LED light bulbs around the place. (they’re not bright enough to use for most things yet)

Nothing wrong with technological advancement. It’s just when government gets involved, things go wrong.

At the moment I’ve got a small electric scooter I use on weekends to run short errands with. It goes about a mile round trip.

Hypothetically it can be charged solar. That’s not available with the scooter, but I rigged together a small solar charger.

Thing is, it takes about a full sunny day, to charge for that one mile round trip.

It’s fun to jump on it and zip over to the market, without using gas. It’s interesting to be marginally able to recharge it without the grid. As a hobby.

But the technology just isn’t ready yet for prime time.

Not even close to being better than gasoline yet.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 5:55:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: hoosierham

A big selling point of hybrids is regenerative braking where your car’s kinetic energy is converted back to potential energy (stored in the battery) when you apply the brakes. But, of course, that comes at a huge increase in capital cost and an efficiency penalty because you have to accelerate all the extra mass of the redundant electric system (battery, electric motor and modified transmission).

It is FAR better to optimize transportation infrastructure around liquid fuels. They store huge amounts of energy, are easy to transport, easy to refuel a vehicle, no waste from spent batteries, and provide heat for the occupants. It makes much more sense to concentrate on alternative liquid fuels (eg, oil from algae) rather than changing out the vehicle motive system. Of course, the green kooks will prohibit liquid fuels (cf., Keystone XL) as much as they prohibit electric generating plants (cf., nuclear and coal).

We are all doomed if we can’t get the green kooks under control. This is a tyranny of an extremely small minority. Unfortunately, the new crop of executives at all energy companies are under their sway.


74 posted on 11/11/2011 8:11:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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