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PERRY DEBATE DISASTER: This Is The Moment That Officially Killed His Campaign — For Good (PAINFUL!)
Business Insider ^
| 11/09/2011
| Zeke Miller
Posted on 11/09/2011 8:44:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Windflier
I saw it. I thought is was funny and well handled. I thought Perry looked fine when it happened.
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posted on
11/09/2011 9:58:10 PM PST
by
ltc8k6
To: SeekAndFind
I believe Rick Perry may have been under the influence of pain medication.
He has been treated for some back ailment and is taking pain meds for that, as has been reported.
His speech in Rhode Island reinforces that notion.
I voted for Perry and went to his rally with Sarah Palin.
I even suggested he would be the dark horse and take the nomination long ago.
I initially supported him and expected him to be the next president.
But knowing his weak stances on immigration, I felt he had the political acumen to walk them back and refocus as he did with Gardasil.
Instead he doubles down and insults the conservative base by calling them heartless.
That was the moment his campaign went down.
Tonight was just further evidence he does not possess sound judgment or a true conservative pedigree.
For those outside of Texas he vowed to sign a law preventing sanctuary cities in Texas. It never came to a vote. As governor, he has the authority to call a special session and have this put to a vote; unfortunately he does not have the stones to follow through.
Good riddance!
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posted on
11/09/2011 10:03:52 PM PST
by
brickdds
To: SeekAndFind
Rick Perry is excellent really, except when it comes to speaking. He’s got some issues there.
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posted on
11/09/2011 10:07:45 PM PST
by
Jay Santos CP
("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
To: Awgie; 50mm; Old Sarge; darkwing104; TheOldLady
Long-time member here; seems to have had a strange virus take over his account for just one post, though...
Cheers!
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posted on
11/09/2011 10:20:34 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: varina davis
Perry is one of the few (if any) candidates who is confident enough to be able to laugh at himself. Thats laudable and human. A lapse in an otherwise very good debate performance. He cant be counted out.
You should go watch the segment again, because the look on his face was not one of somebody who was joyously happy, it was the look of somebody who knew how bad they screwed up.
To: HereInTheHeartland
The sad part; this stuff has zero to do with how someone can govern.
We are electing slick debaters. Almost like auditions to be actors.
Welcome to the last 150 years of politics. Have they become more important over the last 60 years of television, sure, but you want somebody who can communicate, and who can go in front of a hostile crowd and articulate what they believe in and why they believe in it.
People complain about these debates, but I love them, because it's providing a good opportunity for some candidates to sharpen their communication skills and whoever gets this nomination needs to be ready to mix it up with Nobama and the MSM.
My only problem is that after tonight, I can see more and more moderators shying away from engaging Gingrich or Paul.
To: SeekAndFind
He’s done. Finished. Kaput. Mark the time, Scotty. Historic.
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posted on
11/09/2011 10:30:24 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(Mr. Cain: Back on message now; let the rest of us ferret out the gutter crap who planted that smear)
To: Jay Santos CP
Rick Perry is excellent really, except when it comes to speaking. To save his campaign, no more debates, no more questions.
He should set up a 1-800 call in line so potential supporters can call in and listen to canned messages from Perry, complete with applause.
Limit his campaign stops to a quick wave and smile, then jump back on the bus and take off.
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posted on
11/09/2011 10:34:25 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: brickdds
believe Rick Perry may have been under the influence of pain medication.
He has been treated for some back ailment and is taking pain meds for that, as has been reported.
This is a crappy rumor to spread. If Perry was in that much pain, he would not be out jogging or actively exercising. He has been jogging, he has said he's doing fine.
To: SeekAndFind
If the obamacommies at Business Insider say so, it must be so.
To: ltc8k6
I saw it. I thought is was funny and well handled. I thought Perry looked fine when it happened. Yours is the minority view, which doesn't help Perry one bit. Most folks were aghast at his stumble. And this isn't the first one. He's been stumbling over his own tongue since he first entered the race.
Sorry, but that's a deal-breaker in the big leagues.
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posted on
11/09/2011 11:00:28 PM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: varina davis
Perry isn’t my man and some of his supporters have been incredibly nasty on these forums, but I don’t think that having a brain fart in front of a few million people compares in the least to making nasty comments about the leader of Isreal with an open mike. Obama has been given a pass by the press for so much worse. But they will use this over and over. We will see this on Saturday Night Live and all the late night talk shows. You don’t get to be Governor of Texas, or Governor of Alaska, if you are an idiot. This was a bad break, and I am sorry for everyone here who loves Gov. Perry.
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posted on
11/09/2011 11:03:20 PM PST
by
fireman15
(Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
To: Windflier
It wasn’t Ron Paul that through out the EPA to Perry to try to help him out while he was having his brain fart. It was Romney that was trying to help him, the bad, evil Romney. The above article says it was Ron Paul. It wasn’t. Listen to the video. The word EPA comes from the left of Perry, not to his right, where Ron Paul was. It was Romney, as was confirmed on the TV tonite.
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posted on
11/09/2011 11:41:44 PM PST
by
flaglady47
(When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
To: flaglady47
through = threw above. Typo.
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posted on
11/09/2011 11:43:08 PM PST
by
flaglady47
(When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
To: SeekAndFind
What he should have said: “I’ve been in 57 states, (with) I think one left to go.”
I am not a Perry supporter, but up to that brain lockup, I think he had done quite well tonight.
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posted on
11/10/2011 12:08:36 AM PST
by
Gator113
(~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
To: SeekAndFind
This is getting scary. We don’t have anyone good except Romney. Gingrich has a real history of stepping in to it. If Cain can't prove these harassment stories are false which is hard even if they are, he is a sure loser. Romney I go back and forth on. But we need someone else to jump in Christie, Jindal, or the Virginia Governor (heck I cant even remeember the third ones name). We should be wiping the floor with Obama yet he seems to be leading all of these clowns.
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posted on
11/10/2011 12:30:58 AM PST
by
bilhosty
(Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
To: SeekAndFind
Perry really can't think on his feet....Unfortunately, the President NEEDS to be a great COMMUNICATOR...It's clear that Perry ain't the one.RUSH, Is going to have fun tomorrow w/ this....
CAIN survives & still climbing...Newt, too....
Romney is (struggling) threading water...dead in water.
Pres--ent 0Bozo IS still using his teleprompter?...some COMMUNICATOR
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posted on
11/10/2011 1:08:56 AM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
To: HereInTheHeartland
“The sad part; this stuff has zero to do with how someone can govern.”
Absolutely. If I wanted performance art I’d buy tickets to see the Ice Capades. What do people expect of their nominee, a whole lot of image and a little bit of substance? Are we really that shallow? I’m not just talking about Perry either.
An onstage gaffe or awkward moment may cause some of the audience to wince, cringe or feel uncomfortable but since when has the public developed this preference to have a used car salesman give them the business?
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posted on
11/10/2011 2:40:42 AM PST
by
equaviator
( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
To: AmericanInTokyo
Perry is Road Kill by Suicide.
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posted on
11/10/2011 3:13:49 AM PST
by
Dem Guard
(Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
To: equaviator
I must disagree. This stuff has a lot to do with the ability to “lead”. If I want to be “governed”, I can vote for Obama or Romney. It is not shallow to expect a candidate to have firm knowledge of their own platform.
I will agree with you that every candidate, to some extent has allowed themselves to be sucked into a media circus of “show” absent “substance”. People I thought were solid conservatives were baited and took it hook, line and sinker. They have attacked each other for disingenuous reasons other than the opportunity to spit out a “gotcha” and get that on camera.
I'll admit I'm not a Perry supporter but I do think Perry has contributed to the value of these debates. I think he was also unfairly attacked for his Ponzi scheme characterization of Social Security and motivations for requiring HPV vaccinations. I agree with his position on the former but not on the latter. I do hope he stays in the race and that other candidates find the good sense to debate him, not hurl mud that makes everyone look bad.
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