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Report: Spanier out today [Penn State President to be ousted]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Bob Smizik

Posted on 11/09/2011 1:10:54 PM PST by Colofornian

...The Easton Express-Times is reporting the Penn State president Graham Spanier will by out -- either by resignation or firing -- by the end of the day.

Easton Express-Times

Penn State University President Graham Spanier will either resign or be voted out by the end of today, a source close to the board of trustees told The Express-Times.

An interim president, most likely Executive Vice President and Provost Rodney A. Erickson, will be appointed and a nationwide search for a permanent replacement will begin...

Spanier was made aware in 2002 that a graduate assistant coach had seen former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly sexually assault a young boy in a shower in the Penn State locker room, according to grand jury testimony. Spanier did not involve police, according to testimony. Spanier has not been charged, but there have been many calls for his resignation.

(Excerpt) Read more at communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; homosexualagenda; paterno; pedophile; pedophileuniversity; pennstate; president; sandusky; spanier; trustees
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Well then, that sheds some more light on this doesn’t it? Why haven’t you condemned all those other “everyones” for their failure to report what was going on to the police? After all, you allege they knew about it...... And as a side note, just who are those “everyones” and if they knew about it, why are you singling out Joe Paterno???????

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2804797/posts?page=317#317

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Shreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Various elementary and high school officials
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors


81 posted on 11/09/2011 2:57:25 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Hot Tabasco
why are you singling out Joe Paterno???????

Just because you don't see the rain in Spain doesn't mean it doesn't rain in Spain.

82 posted on 11/09/2011 2:59:36 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Hot Tabasco

Joe didn’t report it to the all the proper authorities.


83 posted on 11/09/2011 3:01:08 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Hot Tabasco
Joe Paterno gets singled out since he is the leader and face of Penn State. It comes with the territory of fame. He knew what happened and stayed silent. Those other witnesses, the GA and two janitors are just as guilty and deserve shame as well.

Paterno with the power he wields could have done something years ago. Instead he stood silent and this monster continued to prey on victims.

84 posted on 11/09/2011 3:02:22 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Hot Tabasco

He reported it “to his superior the AG”. Let’s examine the relationship between Paterno and Curley to see who’s the “superior”. From the PS football media guide:

“[Tim Curley] grew up in a house across from Old Beaver Field and was a member of the undefeated 1971 State College Area High School football team. He joined Paterno’s football team as a walk-on after that and had his career cut short by injuries. After graduating from PSU with a bachelor’s degree in health and physical education, Curley served as a graduate assistant on the PSU coaching staff and soon became Paterno’s first full-time recruiting coordinator in 1978.,,,For Curley, it was onward and upward in PSU athletics as time passed by.,,,He was named an assistant athletic director in 1982 and promoted to associate athletic director in 1992. Curley was elevated to athletic director a year later when Jim Tarman retired.”

Curley is/was a 40 yr. Paterno disciple. No way would Curley fail to follow Paterno’s lead in 2002 re Sandusky. Whatever was or wasn’t done by Curley was exactly the way Paterno wanted it imo.


85 posted on 11/09/2011 3:03:25 PM PST by GAgal
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To: Hot Tabasco

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area

This article does a decent job of summing things up back when the GJ was still going strong.


86 posted on 11/09/2011 3:07:04 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Tallguy
Hard to say. It’s probably significant that Spanier wasn’t allowed to resign. Maybe PSU is getting ready to deny certain post-employment benefits? Or maybe the university thinks that it improves their defense toward the inevitable lawsuits? Who knows?

I'd be almost willing to bet that the parents of the boys who were assaulted by Sandusky will end up owning a large part if not all of PSU

87 posted on 11/09/2011 3:08:21 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Hot Tabasco
why are you singling out Joe Paterno???????

We are not. We simply refuse to let him get a pass while we go after all the people who (as a group) should have stopped this.

No being allowed to be separate from the rest of the group is, in fact, the opposite of being singled out.

88 posted on 11/09/2011 3:12:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I'm one who has been generally sympathetic to Joe Paterno, or at least willing to give the benefit of the doubt to him. And i still very much think we should hear his side of the story before giving a final judgment on his actions. But as it stands now this does not look good for him even if he technically did everything by the book. There are many questions i would like to see answered, such as....

Why did Sandusky resign in '99, less than a year after the incident in '98 was brought to the attention of the police? Did Paterno know of this incident? Did he or someone else pressure Sandusky to resign from PSU at that time?

The "unconfirmed allegation" came from a former PSU quarterback and current (at the time) graduate assistant. This wasn't some guy off the street, but someone that Paterno relied upon to QB his team and thought well enough of him to bring in as a GA and later hired as a full-time coach. Didn't Paterno think this was a credible source? And even if the young man may have been vague in his description of the more graphic details, isn't it enough to know that someone who has access to literally hundreds of kids was seen alone with a little boy in the locker room, both of them totally naked?

If instead of Sandusky, McQueary had reported seeing a janitor showering and doing something of a sexual nature with a little boy, would Paterno have responded the same way? Or would he have called 911 and done everything in his power to make sure the guy never ever went anywhere near the football facilities again?

As time went by and nothing seemed to happen, did it occur to Paterno that perhaps the higher ups were trying to sweep this ugly incident under the rug in order to preserve the reputation of the University? Were his hands completely tied in terms of taking the matter to more neutral authorities instead of it being dealt entirely in-house? And was he aware that Sandusky kept showing up at the football facilities with kids in tow long after this incident?

89 posted on 11/09/2011 3:19:25 PM PST by Humbug
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To: Hot Tabasco
why are you singling out Joe Paterno???????

I am not. I am lumping him in with all the others. You are the one singling out Joe.

90 posted on 11/09/2011 3:27:13 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Hot Tabasco

Paterno was right to report the incident, as he knew it, to his boss. He was wrong to not even try and follow up on it. After all, from that time on he was aware of a child being sexually abused - by someone he knew. Didn’t that bother him? None of the “adults” there were interested in doing the right thing.


91 posted on 11/09/2011 3:30:49 PM PST by texaschick
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To: Colofornian

Good!

Now, who killed Ray Gricar?


92 posted on 11/09/2011 3:31:50 PM PST by Palladin (Where is Ray Gricar?)
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To: tcrlaf
But ultimately it got swept under the rug for years because of the rush to Saturday, those autumn game days when people funnel MONEY into Happy Valley for the biggest thing in the state. Spanier, like many other big-time college Presidents is/was so much like a KING in his domain. No one DARES to question him, and EVERYONE sucks up to him.

I disagree. Jerry Sandusky was just an assistant coach. If Sandusky was caught screwing a 13 year old girl, he would have been in jail within hours, or at least escorted off the campus never to return.

The key issue here was that Sandusky is a homosexual. Terminating Sandusky BECAUSE of a homosexual incident would have caused the campus Velvet Mafia to target Spanier in a thousand ways until he was gone. Look at what happened to people identified as supporting anti-gay-marriage legislation.

93 posted on 11/09/2011 3:38:11 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
And as a side note, just who are those "everyones" and if they knew about it, why are you singling out Joe Paterno???????

Oh , for God's sake, we're not saying he should be thrown in jail, we're saying he should be FIRED. Every summer for 6 summers afterwards he saw Sandusky bring his little boys to training camp; there was always one in particular that he brought everywhere. The rumors about him circulated freely, but good ole Joe wasnt about to have HIS Program brought under the microscope, was he? Whats a few sodomized little boys compared to the great Penn State football team!

I suspect more will come out about the "conversations " that occured between higher up officials and Paterno subsequent to the grad students report. But, personally, I wouldnt wait for it. The amoral fossil has to go Now!

94 posted on 11/09/2011 3:55:03 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: PapaBear3625
The key issue here was that Sandusky is a homosexual.

Actually, IMO, the key issue was that the victims were little boys, not little girls. Society is less attentive when it comes to boys, and boys have a tendency to clam up and internalize from shame from sexual abuse.

I would bet you theres a lot more than 8 victims out there, probably more like 2 dozen at least.

95 posted on 11/09/2011 3:59:11 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Hot Tabasco

You should watch who you call liberal - but on second thought, you’re clearly too blind to watch anything. Keep up with your slander; at your level of brown nosing it’s amusing, you David Cash fan you.


96 posted on 11/09/2011 6:13:38 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: PapaBear3625

After I read the Grand Jury indictment, and thought about it awhile, I came to the same conclusion: Everything probably would have been handled differently by Penn State if Sandusky had been seen having sex with 10-yr old GIRL in a campus shower room.

The indictment is curiously vague about what McQueary told Paterno the next day. Paterno’s claim that he didn’t know “very specific” details sounds like something Bill Clinton would say. And even if McQueary wasn’t exactly clear about what he had witnessed, a man in Paterno’s place should have asked specific questions, so there was no doubt about what McQueary was describing.

If Paterno didn’t ask such questions, it’s because he knew what the likely answers would be, and didn’t want to hear it.


97 posted on 11/09/2011 6:24:49 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: NEMDF
the liberal mindset perfectly illustrated:...hide horrendous acts to protect your image....

they're all nazi's....

98 posted on 11/09/2011 10:22:30 PM PST by cherry
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To: Eagles6

what “guy” was a homosexual?..


99 posted on 11/09/2011 10:27:43 PM PST by cherry
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To: Nonstatist
society in general does not ignore molestation of boys...but grown men do...like the grown men in this case....one who even WATCHED the attack...

I think that men tend to dismiss sexual crimes overall.

..there was a thread the other night about sexual harrassment in grade and high schools and there was a majority who thought it just fun and games.

...this same mentality probably ran thru the Penn State coaching ring....some probably convinced themselves that it wasn't really "sex" sex...some might have decided that the young kid "wanted" it....

we need to get back to a society where there is RIGHT and there is WRONG......

100 posted on 11/09/2011 10:49:00 PM PST by cherry
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