One of my grandchildren was conceived via collection of dads sperm and conceived in an IVf by a doctor and then immediately planted into the woman...our family has been blessed by this child, in the military and loved dearly by everyone.
The idea of personhood at conception will outlaw most contraception. A pregnancy starts at implantation, not fertilization...women miscarry every day, did God cause their abortion. Abortion is a medical word, miscarry is the layman term...Spontaneous abort is a miscarry...why would your god cause a woman to abort...if an abort is threatened (as opposed to a therapeutic abort) should doctors try to stop the threatened abort? Would they then be interfering with gods idea to abort the pregnancy. Perhaps we should stop all vaccines as it was not given the OK in Genesis...
I am just glad your not the one making laws so that you can feel righteous about your opinion...and force those that want children and have difficulty conceiving from seeking recourse to advances made in the last 2000 years..
As I have stated on other threads, the idea of personhood at conception and an outlaw of all forms of contraception is direct catholic dogma. Abortion should not be allowed except in the very rare case of threat to a womans health..It is a rare occasion, but happens. The other legit reason for an abortion is when the fetus dies before birth and should be removed.
Those that believe in strich personhood, what are their thoughts about barrier methods of contraception, via diaphram or condom...if those are to be outlawed also, you can bet the movement is 100% catholic dogma..
“Your right is true, also the right of those that have conceived via IVF have a right to their opinion.
One of my grandchildren was conceived via collection of dads sperm and conceived in an IVf by a doctor and then immediately planted into the woman...our family has been blessed by this child, in the military and loved dearly by everyone.”
That’s wonderful. I believe children conceived in rape, adultery and incest are wonderful too. But just because God can bring something good out of something bad doesn’t mean I am obligated to approve of IVF anymore than I am required to approve of rape, adultery or incest either.
“I am just glad your not the one making laws so that you can feel righteous about your opinion...and force those that want children and have difficulty conceiving from seeking recourse to advances made in the last 2000 years..”
Boo hoo. Oh boo hoo. Cry me a river. Boo hoo.
Having a child is a privilege bestowed by God as He(not your or I) sees fit. It’s not a “right” or an “entitlement” bestowed by the government. Besides, there are countless children that already exist in this world who need parents. Adoption is a beautiful thing for infertile couples.
“As I have stated on other threads, the idea of personhood at conception and an outlaw of all forms of contraception is direct catholic dogma. Abortion should not be allowed except in the very rare case of threat to a womans health..It is a rare occasion, but happens. The other legit reason for an abortion is when the fetus dies before birth and should be removed.
“Those that believe in strich personhood, what are their thoughts about barrier methods of contraception, via diaphram or condom...if those are to be outlawed also, you can bet the movement is 100% catholic dogma.. “
You’re right about it being 100% catholic dogma. And this is one issue where I as a Protestant think the Roman Catholic Church is correct on. In fact, the majority of Protestantism held to the same opinion as the RCC until around 1930.