“Your right is true, also the right of those that have conceived via IVF have a right to their opinion.
One of my grandchildren was conceived via collection of dads sperm and conceived in an IVf by a doctor and then immediately planted into the woman...our family has been blessed by this child, in the military and loved dearly by everyone.”
That’s wonderful. I believe children conceived in rape, adultery and incest are wonderful too. But just because God can bring something good out of something bad doesn’t mean I am obligated to approve of IVF anymore than I am required to approve of rape, adultery or incest either.
“I am just glad your not the one making laws so that you can feel righteous about your opinion...and force those that want children and have difficulty conceiving from seeking recourse to advances made in the last 2000 years..”
Boo hoo. Oh boo hoo. Cry me a river. Boo hoo.
Having a child is a privilege bestowed by God as He(not your or I) sees fit. It’s not a “right” or an “entitlement” bestowed by the government. Besides, there are countless children that already exist in this world who need parents. Adoption is a beautiful thing for infertile couples.
“As I have stated on other threads, the idea of personhood at conception and an outlaw of all forms of contraception is direct catholic dogma. Abortion should not be allowed except in the very rare case of threat to a womans health..It is a rare occasion, but happens. The other legit reason for an abortion is when the fetus dies before birth and should be removed.
“Those that believe in strich personhood, what are their thoughts about barrier methods of contraception, via diaphram or condom...if those are to be outlawed also, you can bet the movement is 100% catholic dogma.. “
You’re right about it being 100% catholic dogma. And this is one issue where I as a Protestant think the Roman Catholic Church is correct on. In fact, the majority of Protestantism held to the same opinion as the RCC until around 1930.
I mentioned nothing about rape, incest or adultery so your remarks on that are irreverent...boo hoo on you also...:O).
you wrote: But just because God can bring something good out of something bad doesn’t mean I am obligated to approve of IVF anymore than I am required to approve of rape, adultery or incest either.***
I never said you were obligated to believe anything, so that remark is not pertinent to what I said.
Those that don't believe as you do should not have legislation to enforce your beliefs...That is the same attitude that brought about Roe v Wade and is just as disgusting to many...to each his own...live your little life according to your beliefs. No one is stopping you..Your the one that wants no contraception for anyone. Opposite side of the same Roe coin...enforce by government your beliefs on others. Use contraception = kill a child...rather radical...
I was a Lutheran long before I became a catholic, never heard the silliness you spout about Protestants beliefs in all my times at church...wasn't even on the radar and that would be during the 50's....