Posted on 11/07/2011 6:53:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I would not personally drink raw milk but I’ll fight for their right to drink it.
'brought up on a north woods farm - with our two cows, their milk, cream and butter. Same as everyone else we knew. As did people for thousands of years.
Hellava lot healthier than all the processed, GMO's, chemicalized foods and milk full of growth hormones and antibiotics and pus. Yes, pus. and drinks and baked goods full of HFCO,
I don't drink much milk nowadays, but I use organic whole. (and organic butter) I have a farmer down the road that delivers my order for eggs and vegetables right to my doorstep every week, I leave money in a cooler on the porch. How simple is that.
I'm 76 -
ROFL Thats why none of us are really here. We all grew up on raw milk as our parents and their parents and their well you get the picture. Thats why none of us are really here.
If no sugar is added why does low fat and 2% have more sugar? I remember Atkins saying they add the sugar to give it some taste once the fat is removed.
Me too, and my kids and some of my grandkids.
You know something? I fear raw milk less than those immunizations they all try to mandate on us.
Thanks for the ping!
People actually rallying for Food Freedom in Maryland!
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
“I’m 76 - “
I hope to see how that is. ;>)
We use organic butter and I no longer use much milt and we have our own chicken, duck and goose eggs. I’m up to 60 birds. LOL
I have the same concerns about all of the junk that is now in our food.
I'm less worried about someone getting listeria, assuming they know what they're consuming, than I am about the government presuming they have the authority to delve into this aspect of my (or anyone's) life.
Then they came for the eggs, but...
Then they came for the honey, but...
Now, they're coming for MY zucchini!
Shouldn't matter, IF the government wasn't paying the health care bill.
Get the government out of the health care business, and a LOT of their "justification" for nanny-statism evaporates.
Freedom includes the freedom to die from the consequences of your own ignorance, stupidity, pig headedness, or experiments.
`_____those mmunizations they all try to mandate on us.’
Such good posts here, don’t know who to respond to, then picked your post.
Our 4 daughters were raised on raw milk, delivered to the doorstep from a local dairy, around the 1970’s.
Since cow’s milk is for baby calves, our girls were not encouraged to drink milk past the age of about 12. There is calcium, better utilized, from foods other than milk.
Raw milk dairies are held to a higher cleanliness standard than others.
A few weeks ago I had this huge post going on the raw milk subject with a fellow Freeper.
And here it is again!
We continue to get raw cheese products, from the health food store.
Will fight mandated dangerous vaccines - all vaccines, actually. We consider all vaccines dangerous.
There is a provision on school forms to skip vaccines, thank God.
And yep, we are quite right of center!
Wasn't "handled hygienically" in those cases then, was it? It's a wonder you didn't mention a worker sneezing into the bucket, too.
And when you talk about "Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, making it one of the worlds most dangerous food products," you're conflating unsupervised, unregulated (in any meaningful way) Developing Countries (e.g. China) commercial enterprises; and Third World farmer families who have never heard of soap & water, let alone refrigeration, bacteria or disinfectants; with milk "handled hygienically". This a lie via true, but mostly irrelevant, statistics. Dishonest, to say the least
In any case, deceptively selling raw to the public at large, is not the same as selling to willing customers who are seeking the product, and should not be the government's business.
I Googled milk nutrition facts, and didn't see a difference in carbs between skim, 2%, and whole milk. They all had 12 or 13g carbs per serving.
It is true that some processed foods have sugar added to replace removed fat.
I have read that statement about raw milk, also, but cannot find it now that I am looking for it.
Please include the html reference for items you post from the internet.
I have yet to see cows that are worried about hygiene. It really makes no difference how hygienically the milk is handled; those cows are out there grazing in the same pasture where they and other animals poop, flies tend to breed where livestock is kept, and cows have frequent contact with wild animals. It is impossible to raise cows in a pathogen-free environment.
And when you talk about "Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, making it one of the worlds most dangerous food products," you're conflating unsupervised, unregulated (in any meaningful way) Developing Countries (e.g. China) commercial enterprises; and Third World farmer families who have never heard of soap & water, let alone refrigeration, bacteria or disinfectants; with milk "handled hygienically". This a lie via true, but mostly irrelevant, statistics. Dishonest, to say the least
I have seen that statement before. I cannot find the original statement now that I am looking for it, but I'm fairly certain that it is talking strictly about US foodborne illnesses, which are tracked by the CDC.
In any case, deceptively selling raw to the public at large, is not the same as selling to willing customers who are seeking the product, and should not be the government's business.
A list of all pathogens known to be found in raw milk and raw milk products should be included on the label. Placing a poster of typical microbial analysis of raw milk samples nearby would be nice, too. Shouldn't people who choose to risk their health by using raw milk pay higher health insurance premiums, so the rest of us won't be subsidizing their choices?
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