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Correcting the 'fairy tale:' a SEAL's account of how Osama bin Laden really died (dastardly)
Daily Caller ^ | 11-7-11 | Vince Coglianese

Posted on 11/07/2011 3:37:27 PM PST by STARWISE

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All for his dang re-election. There's a special place in Hell ...

God bless, protect and hold dear our precious military. None better .. none! My heart aches for what they have to endure in this miserable term ...

1 posted on 11/07/2011 3:37:29 PM PST by STARWISE
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2 posted on 11/07/2011 3:41:26 PM PST by STARWISE ( The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I read this earlier today and I can’t see any reason not to believe it. Just as a matter of common sense, if you’re going into a multi-story residence at night via helicopter, would you start at the top floor, or at ground level and have to fight your way up?

That Obama lied about this is, as you say, “dastardly”.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 3:41:32 PM PST by bigbob
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That Obama needed the glory more than the info about Al Qaeda is evil.


4 posted on 11/07/2011 3:47:28 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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I'd call the lie Obama told ‘dastardly’ except spell the word with 1st letter earlier in the alphabet.
5 posted on 11/07/2011 3:51:39 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Any REAL news on who offed the seals? I thought so! Sounds like the vince foster syndrome


6 posted on 11/07/2011 3:54:02 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: STARWISE

Who knows. Granted that slimeball politicians have grabbed onto this and sucked it for all it’s worth, but the assertion that any special operation groups don’t kill or assassinate seems pretty lame to me despite what somebody claims - even if they’re connected. Now, I’m not saying that selected assassination is a bad thing neccessarily, just that denial of it as a legitimate mission objective is pretty hard to buy. Wasn’t that one of the roles MACV SOG performed in Viet Nam?


7 posted on 11/07/2011 3:54:59 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: SandRat; All

Couldn’t agree more, Sandy ..it’s beyond repugnant and appalling.

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But a new book by former SEAL Team Six commander Chuck Pfarrer is turning it on its head again, calling into question critical details thought to be established facts in the terror raid. Pfarrer is no light weight:

a former assault-element commander for the SEALs in the ‘80s, he has been published widely on counter-terrorism and special operations and his book is the first account to boast interviews with SEALs who actually participated in the raid.

Advance copies of the book SEAL Target Geronimo have been provided to The Telegraph, New York Post, The Daily Caller and The Daily Beast and each publication is publishing different revelations about the raid.

http://news.yahoo.com/six-biggest-discrepancies-accounts-bin-laden-raid-174908464.html

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Bio

Charles Patrick “Chuck” Pfarrer, III is an American novelist, non-fiction writer, screenwriter, and former U.S. Navy SEAL. Pfarrer went through Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training (BUD/S) in 1981 and spent 8 years as a Navy SEAL.

Chuck Pfarrer author photoHe served as a military advisor in Central America, trained NATO forces in Europe and the Mediterranean, undertook duties in the Middle East, notably in Lebanon during the Lebanese Civil War.

As executive officer of the SEAL Team assigned to the Multi-National Peacekeeping Force, he witnessed the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut.

Pfarrer was one of the SEAL Team leaders responsible for the apprehension of Abu Abbas and the hijackers of the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Pfarrer ended his service as Assault Element Commander at the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU), formerly known as SEAL Team 6.

After leaving the military, Pfarrer embarked on a career as a Hollywood screenwriter. His film credits include writing, acting and production work in Navy SEALs, Darkman, and Hard Target.

Pfarrer was the screenwriter on The Jackal. His spec screenplays for Virus and Red Planet were also made into movies. He is an uncredited writer on the films Arlington Road, Second Nature, Sudden Impact and Green Hornet. Pfarrer was active in the 2004 effort to recall Writer’s Guild of America president Charles Holland, who had claimed, wrongly, to be a wounded combat veteran, intelligence officer and Green Beret. Holland eventually resigned under fire.

Pfarrer’s best-selling autobiography, Warrior Soul, The Memoir of a Navy SEAL, was published by Random House in 2004. His debut novel, Killing Che, was published by Random House in 2007.

He is the author/creator of six graphic novels for Dark Horse Comics, and wrote and produced two interactive full motion videos, Flash Traffic and Silent Steel, both for Tsunami Media.

From an early age, it was clear Chuck’s interest in marine life and the sea would lead him to the Navy.

Pfarrer has written broadly on terrorism and counter-terrorism, and serves government and industry as a subject matter expert on special operations, terrorist operational methodology, counter-proliferation and terrorist employment of weapons of mass destruction.

He has written Op Ed for the New York Times and the Knight Ridder syndicate, appeared as an author and counter-terrorism expert on CSPAN-2, NPR, the Arabic network Al Hurra, Voice of America, Fox News and ABC, America Tonight and The Australian Broadcast Company.

Pfarrer serves presently an Associate Editor of “The Counterterrorist”, a journal of international security, special operations, counter insurgency and counterterrorism.

Pfarrer is the son of Charles Patrick Pfarrer, Jr., a career naval officer, and Joan Marie (née Hoyle) Pfarrer, a registered nurse. Born in Boston, Pfarrer considers Biloxi, Mississippi to now be his hometown. The Pfarrers share with many other old Biloxi families the distinction of losing homes in both Hurricane Camille (1969) and Hurricane Katrina (2005).

Pfarrer is a graduate of the Staunton Military Academy, and studied Clinical Psychology at California State University at Northridge and the University of Bath in the United Kingdom.

http://chuckpfarrer.com/about/meet-chuck-pfarrer/

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SEAL target Geronimo

http://chuckpfarrer.com/books/seal-target-geronimo/


8 posted on 11/07/2011 3:58:04 PM PST by STARWISE ( The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything. Before that could even be looked through, the political decision was made to take credit for the operation.”

That POS and every rat traitorous pol needs to thrown out and investigations started. Come on 2012 and I hope are not too late.

9 posted on 11/07/2011 3:58:14 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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10 posted on 11/07/2011 3:59:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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A Mob Hit by the Chicago Community Organizer?
11 posted on 11/07/2011 4:02:27 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: STARWISE

“But Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything.”

I saw two Saudis in a parking lot next to a DrugMart over the weekend. Robes, scarves and everything. Males.

This in the middle of no place special in flyover country.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 4:04:22 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Did you observe them doing anything unusual?
No notable musslim population there?


13 posted on 11/07/2011 4:12:41 PM PST by STARWISE ( The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Before my father died, I promised him that I would stop taking the LORD'S name in vain ever... and I have up until this day... and I will never do it again... but if I were to... this would be the time I would do it and I would do it to condemn obama to hell.

LLS

14 posted on 11/07/2011 4:15:07 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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Finally! A breath of fresh air aka as the truth! Thanks!


15 posted on 11/07/2011 4:15:12 PM PST by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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Just talking. One guy was walking around toward the back of the strip mall and turned around.

The older, 30ish man, spoke to another man in a car. Next thing I knew, the Saudi was driving the car.

Haven’t ever seen a Saudi in these parts. Red checkered scarf, white robe, black whatever it is to hold the scarf in place.

I once saw a Saudi princess with bodyguards...in Hawaii.

This was a whole ‘nuther thing.


16 posted on 11/07/2011 4:20:04 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

I, too, would instantly be alerted .. and
very, very watchful from a distance, maybe
get their license tag. I’m a sleuth in my
fantasy life .. LOL.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 4:25:09 PM PST by STARWISE ( The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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***President Obama stepped up to a podium in the East Room of the White House that night to announce bin Laden’s death.****

This reminded me of the Disney movie DRAGONSLAYER. After the dragon is killed by others, the king comes out of hiding, sticks the point of his big sword against the dragon while his adviser says...”All hail Cassiadorus Rex! DRAGONSLAYER!”


18 posted on 11/07/2011 4:38:04 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The CIA trying 'to drive a victory lap'

One of the things that I think we are learning through a number of such revelations is that any good that came out of Iraq, Afghanistan and the effort against Al Qaeda seems to have been largely at the hands of well trained combat professionals and well-trained FBI investigators coupled with intelligence provided by the NSA. THese are all competent, trained, technically up to date outfits.

Unfortunately for every three steps forward we have taken two back because the neo-cons put their faith in the CIA and their so-called black-ops contractors. The more we learn, the more incompetent they appear. Obviously there are competent CIA officers, but somewhere between the political maneuverings of liberals, and the political maneuverings of the neo-cons, it would appear that those who are on top in the CIA are the bunglers and professional suckups, rather than those who work hard developing skills over a life-time and using them for the interests of the country. In other words, instead of looking different from what we expect from our government agencies, say like the SEALS, the CIA seems to behave more like every other incomptent, compromised, neutered politicized agency in the US government. PS for those of you who think Obama is worse than the neo-con RINOs in this regard, DOE loan guarantees - AND SOLYNDRA - actually got their start at the end of the Bush administration. [Things are really bad when RINO political payoffs and dim political payoffs at the taxpayers expense are indistinguishable.]

I am not sure who in the end will have been worse, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Obama, or their political pawns and patsies. At the end of the day none of them seemed to have understood the difference between what skilled professionals do and what those whose motives are political will do.

19 posted on 11/07/2011 4:40:17 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: STARWISE

Starwise, you are a treasure.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 4:43:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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