Posted on 11/07/2011 12:51:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Sharon Bialek, a woman employed by the National Restaurant Associations Educational Foundation in the late 90s, accused Herman Cain of inappropriate sexual contact today in a press conference with celebrity attorney Gloria Allred.
Bialek said she first met Cain when employed by the NRA as a manger of industry relations. She lost her job there shortly thereafter, and at her boyfriends suggestion, arranged to meet Cain in D.C. over coffee in 1997 to discuss her career. She told Cain what hotel she would be staying at; when she arrived, she had been upgraded to a suite, which she later found out had been through his doing, although she says she was not aware of that at the time. Cain also switched their meeting to a restaurant. After eating, Bialek said the two drove over to the National Restaurant Association headquarters; she assumed he would show her the offices.
He suddenly reached over and he put his hand on my leg, under my skirt, and reached for my genitals, said Bialek of what happened next. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. I was very, very surprised and very shocked. I said, What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend. This isnt what I came here for. Mr. Cain said, You want a job, right? I asked him to stop and he did. I asked him to take me back to my hotel, which he did, right away.
Bialek said she told her boyfriend and another friend that Cain had been sexually inappropriate to her at the time, but said she had not detailed what occurred.
Bialek, identified by Allred as a registered Republican, said she saw Cain again about a month ago at a Tea Party conference in the Chicago area. She asked him if he remembered her. He acknowledged that he remembered me from the foundation, but he kind of looked uncomfortable, Bialek said. He said nothing as he was whisked away for his speech by his handlers.
As noted, before the press conference began, the Cain campaign put out a statement saying the allegations were completely false.
That matches my corporate experiences as well.
Maybe obama’s spending some more of our tax dollars on failed jobs. LOL
Sibby Wolfson
Cains Former Secretary: This Is Not the Herman Cain I Know
http://www.cainblog.com/2011/cains-former-secretary-this-is-not-the-herman-cain-i-know/
Karol Markowicz (2004 Campaign Staffer)
Why this guys no sexual harasser
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_this_guy_no_sexual_harasser_0ByzbPJgotwpzSAPZVu2bO
Joseph Fassler
National Restaurant Association chairman during Cains tenure: Its a hatchet jobhttp://dailycaller.com/2011/11/03/national-restaurant-association-chairman-during-cain%e2%80%99s-tenure-its-a-hatchet-job/#ixzz1cgsqrOLy
RE: OK, from a woman’s point of view, I would not say “what are you doing, I have a boyfriend” that is not how a woman would react
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Boyfriend or not, if a man puts his hand on her leg, under her skirt, and reached for her genitals, and also grabbed her head and brought it towards his crotch, the first reaction I would expect a woman who did not want it, would be to fight him off and SCREAM. Also, I would NOT expect her to tell him to drive her back. I’d expect her to get the hell outa the car and call for help.
This story reds like a very bad script. A script only Gloria Allred would write.
Making a pass is a far cry from putting your hands on a lady or suggesting that she go down on you by grabbing her head.
If these allegations are false, they are despicable, and truly the vilest of vile election manipulation.
But if they’re true, it’s not the sort of behavior I want my president to have engaged in. You treat other people with respect...If you make a verbal pass, are rebuffed, and let it go, no harm, no foul. You put hands on someone, that’s a problem in my book.
That only applies to liberals, not conservatives. If people thought Cain was only trying to have consensual sex with a willing partner, he would still be toast for cheating on his wife.
The entire thing appears to me to be fabricated. If Cain wanted to, he could do a whole lot better than her and discreetly. I hope reporters are camped on her doorstep. If she's lying, she will not be able to keep the story straight if she is questioned about it repeatedly.
Excellent, and when the next bimbo steps up to derail your candidate, even if the charge is false, what will your schtick be at that point?
The press is playing you for the patsy you are. They are picking the Republican candidate like they did in 2004.
We got McCain because he was a hothead, quasi-liberal, whack job they could blow up if he didn’t blow himself up, which is what he did all by himself.
Zero tolerance from the press this time around. They can suck it.
Exactly, I would have shoved his hand & been out of that car in a heart beat!
Seriously? Even if what she says is true, you think it’s okay? When was the last time you sought help getting a job and had the guy tell you that you could get one in exchange for sexual favors? You think that’s acceptable behavior?
(I am not saying Cain did that - I am saying the woman accused him of that, and this poster is saying “even if all that is true, it’s no big deal”)
I don’t know enough about Cain as a person in a position of power to make a judgment one way or the other about that particular allegation. I’ve heard other assertions about his being arrogant in the way he treats employees, but that’s also not enough for me to reach a conclusion. Arrogance doesn’t make one a letch.
When this is all said and done, some people are going to be very embarassed at how willing they were to defend Herman so quickly.
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exactly.
there are much better ways for cain to handle this,
and so far he didnt handle it correctly.
In the middle of Washington, DC? At night? Not a chance.
So as I understand this story, she was not an employee at the time of the contact, but was seeking a job? She is claiming that he would get her a job in return for sex?
I am having a hard time imagining Cain doing something like this...it does not seem to fit with any other observed behaviors that I have seen.
And she set up the meeting at the hotel, which Cain changed to a restaurant? Why would he do that if he was planning on some lecherous behavior? Why not meet her where she arranged?
RE: there are much better ways for cain to handle this,
and so far he didnt handle it correctly.
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Again, HOW should he have handled it? I’ve asked you this before and all you do is ignore my question.
Put it this way, if you were innocent and someone accused you of sexual harassment, what would YOU have done?
RE: When this is all said and done, some people are going to be very embarassed at how willing they were to defend Herman so quickly.
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I am only speaking for myself but there are lots of people on this site who feel the same way.
NO ONE BUT NO ONE WILL DEFEND HERMAN CAIN *IF* (emphasis) HE IS PROVEN (again emphasis) GUILTY.
So, WHERE’s the EVIDENCE that he’s guilty other than the accusation? Does mere accusation count for guilt?
Is Sarah Palin an adulterer because someone wrote a book accusing her of having an affair with an NBA basketball player named Glen Rice?
No one ( certainly not me ) should be or will be embarassed if Herman Cain is proven guilty because all we are asking is CREDIBLE EVIDENCE.
If you have one, maybe you’d like to point us to it....
We await your response.
See my post #62 for an example of how he could have handled it.
Herman Cain is in a bad spot. This garbage is intended to (a) make him look like a creep and, (b) put him on the defensive all the time and thus, throw his campaign off message - permanently. Sure, this woman is probably lying but she and Gloria Allred know full well that Cain can't disprove her allegations because there were no witnesses and it was too long ago to find any records that might sabotage her account of what allegedly happened between her and Herman Cain during a brief car ride back in 1997. That being the case, I'll stipulate that this definitely hurts Cain's campaign. That you and others are eager to criticize his handling of these accusations may be factual but is hardly helpful - to anyone. What Cain's people need to do is to to try to find some aspect of this woman's story that can be proven false. That is probably not possible due the time lapse involved but it's worth a shot. If some aspect of her story can be proven false, it will put all these accusations into doubt and help thwart the Democrats goal of destroying a good man's public image by making him look like a creep trying to take advantage of women.
If Cain cannot surmount these accusations the public perception of Herman Cain will be badly damaged, which is exactly the point of the accusations that are almost impossible to disprove due to no witnesses or corroborating testimony, one way or the other. We had all said that the 2012 campaign would be brutal and fought 'Chicago style' meaning, in the gutter. Obama can't campaign on his abysmal record so he'll have to try and destroy his opponent's credibility. The media is eager to help him do so. The vicious and constant attacks on non-candidate Sarah Palin were a forerunner of what the Republican presidential nominee will have to deal with. Now we see that the left is trying to effect a pre-emptive strike to take out Herman Cain and likely clear the way for their favorite Republican, Mitt Romney, to take his place. We cannot allow that to happen. Romeny is a RINO of the worst kind and will be happy to 'accommodate' the Democrats all day long. America needs a conservative leader, not a limp, pseudo-Republican that has no core values.
Most conservatives are quite willing to give Mr. Cain the benefit of the doubt (I am) but harping on his handling of the accusations is hardly productive. Because all the accusations seem to stem from a very narrow time period (approximately 12 - 15 years ago) I'm highly suspicious. A man that is sexually aggressive in the way this woman described would have been doing this kind of thing on a regular basis. After all, even then, Herman Cain had power as a senior corporation executive and he certainly could afford to 'buy' any woman he really wanted. That no accusations are lodged against him from any other time frame makes the whole 'scandal' appear manufactured. When the accuser claims that Cain stopped groping her when she objected is damning him with faint praise. Sort of like saying that you're glad to hear that your co-worked stopped beating his wife. Most of us already know that Gloria Allred is a notorious publicity hound and loves to attach herself to alleged victims of 'sexual harassment' so her sudden involvement in this faux scandal is hardly a shock to the Cain campaign or anyone who follows politics. As for your disappointment with Cain 'playing the race card' I agree that is unfortunate. I think he should have saved it for a more opportune moment.
What should he have done?
Funny how liberal trolls think we can’t pick them out on this forum!
The other thing I find highly suspect is, they were supposed to meet in her ROOM. Then HE changes the appointment to a restaurant (in public) and then allegedly attacks her in the car!!?? Beeee Esssss
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