New Cain accuser to hold press conference? Of with Gloria Allred)

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[Fred]

A couple of caveats are in order when reading this breaking story about a woman coming forward in a press conference to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment. First, it’s Radar that is reporting the news, and their track record for accuracy on political stories is … less than spectacular, although not entirely bad. The second caveat? Her representation:

A new woman alleging sexual harassment by presidential hopeful Herman Cain will break her silence at a news conference with her powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred Monday afternoon in New York City, RadarOnline.comis exclusively reporting. …

The woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain’s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.

For those who can’t recall the last time Allred represented someone with a credible claim, you’ll have to look farther back than her attempt to kneecap Meg Whitman in the California gubernatorial election. Greta van Susteren destroyed Allred in a

[justsaynomore]

Well, look at her attorney (at the time and now), big buds with Clinton chief of staff Podesta. That should raise a lot of eyebrows right there.

[Fred]

So would I.

[Scoutmaster]

Clinton’s misconduct first came to light, in terms of wide public knowledge, through official channels. The Attorney General had appointed an Independent Counsel and then referred some information to him.

You don't consider Clintons' Stand By Your Man interview on 60 Minutes regarding the Gennifer Flowers affair to have generated wide public knowledge? At that point, even the mainstream media played the follow-up audio tapes by Flowers in which Bill Clinton's voice was heard, and it was general knowledge that Clinton was an adulterer.

It was Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit that broke the dam - although there were plenty of rumors and names being tossed about in conservative media before that.

What's a little ironic is that Clinton's impeachment was brought about because of perjury in a sexual harassment lawsuit, and we seem to have so many people claiming that all sexual harassment claims are baseless, and that there's no such thing as sexual harassment.

The Democrat's argument at the time was that Paula couldn't have been sexually harassed because she got a promotion after being escorted to Governor Clinton's room by a State Trooper, meeting him, then having him drop his pants, expose himself, and asking her to 'kiss it."

She refused, and as Paula was at the hotel room door leaving, Clinton asked about Paula's boss's boss, and how he was doing. Clinton said that the man was a good friend of his. That was the implied threat Paula Jones relied on . . . and the court held was the basis for Paula being able to continue her sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton.

What's also interesting is that most of the lurid details from that "Bill Clinton's sex life in Little Rock" story in the then-unheard of National Review (details about underage girls, cocaine, using State Troopers to procure women, and Clinton's fetish for receiving Lewinskys in parked cars as Troopers watched from their vehicles) never made it into the Clinton debauchery lore.

[bgill]

Some FRiends were correct saying Gloria would be hogging the cameras on this.

[Scoutmaster]

Amen. And I’m a little scared of the villagers with the torches and pitchforks.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

...a speeding bullet, flying past the top of your head. WHOOSH!

Not even close, if you've ever been shot at you will never forget the sound. A "speeding" bullet (near miss) sounds more like a whip crack then anything else.

Regards,
GtG

[LADY J]

"I think Gingrich would become the frontrunner.'

Why not just stick with Cain!! Gingrich is a known philanderer - that's a fact, so why switch? What would be the difference?

[Scoutmaster]

There are probably more women abused by Clinton than anyone can count, but most were all too familiar with the tactics of the Clinton machine and the bimbo eruption police.

I was simply responding to the statement that all of Clinton's women came forward. They didn't. And those who did often didn't until they were identified by name and photo in the press.

And when we attack a woman for not filing a claim against Cain at the time, but speaking about it now, we have to remember that Paula Jones didn't file a claim against Clinton at the time, but spoke about it and filed charges three years later.

That's not to say that Cain did anything.

It's just saying we should be consistent on some issues. If we state as fact: not filing a complaint at the time means the woman's charges are lies . . . then Paula Jones' charges against Bill Clinton were lies. And I don't think Paul Jones' charges against Bill Clinton were lies.

[101voodoo]

You are making excuses for these women that is pure horseshit.
If they had not opened their mouths then they would have sympathy, but they did and worse they hid while accusing Cain

[altura]

Neither do I, but there is definitely a double standard on this forum.

[X-spurt]

Might be a good time to reevaluate.

Allred getting involved is NOT a good omen. Hope Herman has good witnesses that can prove he has never been anywhere near this woman!

“Innocent until proven guilty” is the instruction to a jury, not a even close to reality in public opinions.

[fightinJAG]

I was responding to the constant meme that “if Cain stumbles, Romney gets the nomination.”

I don’t agree with that.

Doesn’t mean I think Cain will stumble or that voters will leave him over this. I think the verdict is out on that. It will take a news cycle or two for this to sink in and be evaluated.

But you bring up a good point: our choices are what our choices are. Consider carefully.

[fightinJAG]

Agreed.

[wardaddy]

He never said he did not recall the incident.

Nope..in the beginning Cain denied knowledge of payout/severance/settlement..whatever you want to call it

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain was struggling to maintain a credible response to allegations of sexual harassment as he shifted his version of events for the second time in 24 hours. After insisting on Monday that he had no recollection of any settlements being paid to two women who complained about his conduct when he was president of the National Restaurant Association, Cain changed his story on Monday night when he said he could, in fact, recall such a payout.

I am not crazy about him being pilloried but I am just as tired of conservative parsing as I am the left's witch hunt...they both suck

[Impy]

Is that the one that’s a “lifelong Republican”. I just love it when they throw that old sawbone out there.

[Impy]

Is that the one that’s a “lifelong Republican”? I just love it when they throw that old sawbone out there.

[Pelham]

“Nope..in the beginning Cain denied knowledge of payout/severance/settlement..whatever you want to call it”

Cain had already left the NRA for a post at the Federal Reserve of Atlanta by the time the settlement was made, which if I have it right was some six months after he was gone.

There is no reason for him to have followed up on the woman’s harassment accusation- unless he had done something wrong and wanted to see if he had dodged a bullet. The fact that he seemed not to know the disposition of the woman’s accusation could indicate that he is innocent of any wrongdoing rather than trying to hide something.

The problem with sexual harassment accusations is that they are always possible and none of us can be sure what did or did not happen. All we can do is try to take an assessment of Cain’s character and make a guess as to what might have happened.