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General Fired Over Karzai Remarks
New York Times ^ | November 5, 2011 | ROD NORDLAND

Posted on 11/05/2011 5:17:07 AM PDT by Pan_Yan

KABUL, Afghanistan — A senior American general stationed in Afghanistan has been fired for criticizing President Hamid Karzai in a published interview.

The NATO and American commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John R. Allen, announced in a press release on Saturday that he was dismissing Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller, the deputy commander for programs at the NATO training mission in Afghanistan, effective immediately. “The decision follows recent inappropriate public comments made by Maj. Gen. Fuller,” General Allen said.

The statement was issued early Saturday morning in Kabul, which was still Friday in the United States, where General Fuller had been on a speaking tour. It came shortly after a Thursday interview with the two-star United States Army general was published by the news Web site Politico.

General Fuller was responding to remarks made by President Karzai a week earlier in which he told a Pakistani interviewer that Afghanistan would come to Pakistan’s aid if attacked by the United States.

“Why don’t you just poke me in the eye with a needle! You’ve got to be kidding me,” General Fuller said. “I’m sorry, we just gave you $11.6 billion and now you’re telling me, ‘I don’t really care?’ ”

General Fuller also described President Karzai as erratic and inarticulate.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; army; karzai
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1 posted on 11/05/2011 5:17:10 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Speaking the truth,in public,in today’s Military is always a career ending event.


2 posted on 11/05/2011 5:22:31 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Pan_Yan

What the heck are we doing there other than trying to prop up a corrupt regime which doesn’t enjoy the support of its people and which would turn on us in a second if it felt that it would benefit them?


3 posted on 11/05/2011 5:23:04 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: Pan_Yan

We should fire Karzai and put this guy in his place.


4 posted on 11/05/2011 5:23:10 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Soldiers WILL NOT say bad things about Muslims!

Not as long as Imam Obama is their CinC at any rate.

5 posted on 11/05/2011 5:26:08 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: Happy Rain

Time to come home now!


6 posted on 11/05/2011 5:27:39 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Pan_Yan

Politico is collecting a lot of heads lately.....hmmmmmm.


7 posted on 11/05/2011 5:33:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mortal19440; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Lancey Howard; jazusamo
Speaking the truth,in public,in today’s Military is always a career ending event.

Then that means that Gen Fuller sacrificed 2 stars and a choice assignment to send America a message. He fell on his sword, in all likelihood, so that we would know the truth of the leadership in Afghanistan. It would be nice to have full text of his remarks.

When the generals speak bluntly, then we are being told American lives are too precious to any longer sacrifice for this stooge named Karzai.

8 posted on 11/05/2011 5:37:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Pan_Yan

The American military has done enough. Let this puke president suffer the security consequences of bringing them home. I’m sick of this low life CiC putting all the burden and more on our soldiers while forcing them to endure fags, multicultural commies and a no victory mission. I’m perfectly willing to keep an eye out for mullah omar here at home.


9 posted on 11/05/2011 5:41:42 AM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: Pan_Yan
“Don't Ask, Don't tell” used to refer to perverted sexual behavior.

The Armed Forces have re-adopted the policy —only changing it to “Don't ask [the truth], Don't Tell [the truth]!!

10 posted on 11/05/2011 5:43:41 AM PDT by texican01
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To: xzins
It would be nice to have full text of his remarks.

I don't have that, but here's the article that got him fired.

In fact, the Afghan government made requests for F-16 fighter jets and tanks, even without the budget to use or maintain them, said Fuller. “I actually had someone senior tell me, ‘All I want to do is put them [tanks] on a flat bed and drive them around in a parade,” he said.

11 posted on 11/05/2011 5:43:41 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

It is well past time for America to take action on Pakistan. We call Iran the big threat - Pakistan is also a big threat. Our attempt to buy the loyalty of anti-American nations is ridiculous.


12 posted on 11/05/2011 5:57:52 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I totally agree with the general. The afghans have learned nothing from all of our years of mentoring and assistance. they don’t care to learn. and they are either OK with us leaving because they think they can secure their own family, or they are too stupid to think past the nose on their own face.

this general told it like it is. i agree 100 pct with what he said. any NORMAL person would. unfortunately, our politically correct society won’t allow the truth to come out. the real insult was Karzai saying he’d back pakistan against the US. why was he not asked to apologize?

i have zero confidence in our ability to turn the situation around in afghanistan, even if we had all the poeple we wanted. the afghans have given up. we have largely given up. the rules of engagement are stupid. and there’s a never-ending stream of bad guys coming across the border.

let them place implode. almost all of the money in afghanistan is brought in by ISAF. when ISAF goes, so goes the money. these people will be able to last maybe a year or two when we leave. no more. but since we are leaving, come hell or high water, let’s just go now. don’t waste another American life for these people and their perpetual problems. if they start training terrorists again, we can send a few cruise missiles in and blow em up i guess.


13 posted on 11/05/2011 6:08:35 AM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Time to come home now!”

Absolutely. We shouldn’t spend a nickle or risk losing one brave soldier defending these 6th century ingrates.


14 posted on 11/05/2011 6:18:11 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Oklahoma’s National Guard brigade combat team in Afghanistan now has suffered significant losses (14 to date, IIRC, since June) and I’m really tired of seeing these young people on the front page. This general’s comment seals the deal for me that it is time for the US to get out while retaining armed drone sorties and some Special Forces like the “Horse Soldiers” that went in there in 2001-2. Keep any Taliban off-balance and make smoking holes where al-Quaeda leadership pops up on the landscape.


15 posted on 11/05/2011 6:22:13 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Pan_Yan

General Fuller has a point.
$11 billion for what ?


16 posted on 11/05/2011 6:27:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: xzins

I hope that when we eventually leave, Karzai is the last fatality. Save that last bullet for him so he can’t run off to Paris and enjoy his stolen millions or billions.


17 posted on 11/05/2011 6:30:25 AM PDT by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Pan_Yan

When did the truth become inappropraite


18 posted on 11/05/2011 6:32:43 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: mortal19440

In to-days army, what happened to MacArthur. What is that statement about not knowing history and repeating it.


19 posted on 11/05/2011 6:41:09 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Pan_Yan

The money is viewed as “Jizya” that we Infidels are required to pay to the koranimals for use of their “-Stan” & it buys no allegiance what-so-ever from them.

Koranimals support each other.

That is all.


20 posted on 11/05/2011 6:44:22 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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