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To: Pan_Yan

I totally agree with the general. The afghans have learned nothing from all of our years of mentoring and assistance. they don’t care to learn. and they are either OK with us leaving because they think they can secure their own family, or they are too stupid to think past the nose on their own face.

this general told it like it is. i agree 100 pct with what he said. any NORMAL person would. unfortunately, our politically correct society won’t allow the truth to come out. the real insult was Karzai saying he’d back pakistan against the US. why was he not asked to apologize?

i have zero confidence in our ability to turn the situation around in afghanistan, even if we had all the poeple we wanted. the afghans have given up. we have largely given up. the rules of engagement are stupid. and there’s a never-ending stream of bad guys coming across the border.

let them place implode. almost all of the money in afghanistan is brought in by ISAF. when ISAF goes, so goes the money. these people will be able to last maybe a year or two when we leave. no more. but since we are leaving, come hell or high water, let’s just go now. don’t waste another American life for these people and their perpetual problems. if they start training terrorists again, we can send a few cruise missiles in and blow em up i guess.


13 posted on 11/05/2011 6:08:35 AM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: GodfearingTexan

Your post was fantastic. One of the best I’ve read in a while.

For some time, I’ve been thinking “Stay the course, stay the course. The Afghanis that we’re training for military ops and for running the govt, they’ll comr around. They’ll get it”.

But they’re not. There’s no amount of money that can get them to think about the big picture - securing and building a nation. If there’s someone out there who has information to the contrary, I’d be willing to hear it.

As much as it pains our psyche to admit we failed, it is time to pack it up.


21 posted on 11/05/2011 6:45:23 AM PDT by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Good comment.

Anyone figure out yet while we are there after driving out the taliban? I thought that was the mission...not some never ending national building by bribing those in power. Frankly, I think Karsi has an agreement with POKistan and probably the Talibsn too. He knows sooner than later we leave so why not get off the tracks now because the train is not going to stop for him.

I would add two words though to your cruise missile comment, that word would be thermo nuclear. Please don’t turn over that turd pit to the Taliban as we are doing for Iran in Iraq, at least, not in tact.


28 posted on 11/05/2011 8:17:51 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: GodfearingTexan

“The afghans have learned nothing from all of our years of mentoring and assistance.”

They have learned nothing in about 1500 years. Islam came and learning was over. All you need to know is the koran.
The problem is islam. I don’t know how anyone can fix centuries of stupid.


32 posted on 11/05/2011 9:14:46 AM PDT by Bluebeard16
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