There are studies that show a benefit of raw milk over pasteurized. And there are studies that show that pasteurized milk is bad for you. As I said, when I did drink raw milk I got it from a trusted source that I know did appropriate testing, as everyone should do if they choose to drink it. All you seem to want to do is ridicule people that don’t drink pasteurized like you do.
The CDC can’t get the easy things right, how many times have they changed the Food Pyramid. Do you think it’s appropriate for every person to have 6 - 11 servings of grains every day? Some people can’t tolerate that much. One size does not fit all. There are also experts who have analyzed the data and say there are issues with vaccines. And it seems that there have actually been no studies on combining vaccines, just the individuals. I’ve never read Dr Sears book, so I don’t really know what he has to say. I’ve read some of Dr. Mercola, but have found you have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt. He does have products he wants to sell, but in this case I don’t see how it benefits him to warn people of the potential dangers of vaccines.
No, vaccines and herd immunity in general aren’t controversial. You keep saying that you never said that vaccines were completely safe, but you don’t seem to be willing to admit that not everyone should receive them. That’s when things become controversial. Have you seen the pictures of babies that are suffering from vaccine reactions? I’m not anti-vaccine, I do have issues with a 2 month old getting loaded up with 8 different vaccines at one appointment and other similar schedules at different ages.
I’m curious if you have been re-vaccinated? Otherwise you’re basically walking around unvaccinated and putting the population at risk. Bacterial vaccines in particular are effective for only a few years. So you, in fact, could be a pertussis carrier and spreading it around. Have you re-vaccinated? If not, why?
“”People who give raw milk to young children, with vulnerable and still developing immune systems, are taking unnecessary chances for no good reason.””
Again Mase sees no contradiction here about “vulnerable and still developing immune system”. It’s ok to pump toxins and poisons into that same young child tho’!
I’m afraid our friend has spent too long at this today as he chastised you about Dr. Mercola and Dr. Sears when it was I who brought those two men up. He seems to think that Dr. Sears writes books to make money when he’s already a very successful pediatrician in Southern CA.
I don’t know if there’s a vaccine for confusion but he should seek it out ASAP if there is.
I was raised on raw milk and bought it wherever it was legal to do so in my adult life. Who knows? It may have gotten me and my siblings through the polio epidemics of the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s. But personal experiences carry no weight with a lot of posters here today. Still a milk drinker in my middle ‘70’s.
Please list the benefits identified in the studies here.
And there are studies that show that pasteurized milk is bad for you.
Please post the reasons given by those studies for why pasteurized milk is bad for you.
As I said, when I did drink raw milk I got it from a trusted source that I know did appropriate testing
What appropriate testing? What did they do exactly that made you certain the raw milk you were buying wasn't going to make you sick? How should "everyone" else go about ensuring that the "appropriate" testing is being done on the raw milk they purchase?
All you seem to want to do is ridicule people that don’t drink pasteurized like you do
I ridicule people for taking unnecessary risks with their health, and especially with the health of their children, when all raw milk does is dramatically increase the risk of getting sick from drinking milk.
The CDC can’t get the easy things right, how many times have they changed the Food Pyramid
But we're not talking about the food pyramid. The only time I mentioned the CDC was to say that according to the CDC, raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak. If you have some information that disproves what the CDC claimed, then please post it here. If you don't, then please stop whining about the CDC and other things that were never said.
He does have products he wants to sell, but in this case I don’t see how it benefits him to warn people of the potential dangers of vaccines.
Mercola simply wants hits to his website so he can sell his products. He creates fear of vaccines so that people will read the anti-scientific nonsense he posts.
You keep saying that you never said that vaccines were completely safe, but you don’t seem to be willing to admit that not everyone should receive them.
It's about time you admitted that you were accusing me of making claims I never did. Now I see where the goal posts are being moved again to a discussion about whether "everyone" should receive vaccines. Again, I don't ever recall saying that "everyone" should receive a specific vaccine, or vaccines in general, but if you can point me to where I wrote such a thing, I will retract it.
Now there are two ways in which we can define the term "safe." Are you saying that I believe vaccines are "harmless." This would imply that any negative consequence of vaccines would make the vaccine unsafe. No, no vaccine is 100% safe when "safe" is defined in this manner. We can also define the word "safe" as "having been preserved from a real danger." Under this definition, a vaccine's benefits must clearly and definitively outweigh its risks. I believe that can be said of all vaccines.
Have you seen the pictures of babies that are suffering from vaccine reactions?
Again, and for the last time, there are risks and benefits with all medicines. And again, the benefits far outweigh the very small chance that children will experience and adverse reaction to a vaccine. When was the last time you saw someone suffering from smallpox, polio or whooping cough? Exactly.
I do have issues with a 2 month old getting loaded up with 8 different vaccines at one appointment and other similar schedules at different ages.
Then you're at odds with the the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices along with the rest of the experts who designed the schedule, and serve as the country’s true authorities on vaccinology, childhood infectious disease, and epidemiology.
Who ya gonna trust, all those experts in these many organizations or Roos_Girl, an internet charlatan and some "self-taught" expert who validates the pervasive myths currently scaring parents with misinformation and fear-mongering?
It shouldn't be a difficult decision.
I’m curious if you have been re-vaccinated?
Yup. Up until a few years ago I did a fair amount of international travel so we had to keep all of our immunizations current. I'm still current today and will remain that way. I agree that more adults need to take this seriously.