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(CT) State lawmakers want gas stations with generators
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Posted on 11/04/2011 3:54:06 AM PDT by matt04

Two state lawmakers say new laws are needed after last weekend's rare autumn snow storm that would require electric generators at gas stations and senior housing.

State Rep. Zeke Zalaski, a Democrat from Southington, said Thursday that many of his constituents in need of gas for vehicles and generators were unable to find stations with the power to sell fuel. He said the few that were open had long lines and created traffic jams.

Zalaski's bill would also require generators at senior housing complexes.

Rep. Matthew Lesser, a Democrat from Middletown, is suggesting a new system in which the state would buy generators for every city and town with a gas station. In municipalities with multiple stations, the owners would bid on the generators and theoretically get a bargain.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: gas; gasstations; generators
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So, the state buys them, then let's owners bid for them to keep costs low. I don't see how that works.
1 posted on 11/04/2011 3:54:08 AM PDT by matt04
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So rather than busting the local utilities chops all these years ( NU etc ) and let them have margins to keep the grid tip top, you now want to plaster over that sin with Generators? How about not being so eco-greenie and start cutting some trees back?

Yes I have been back East and noticed how grown it is, they don't seem to be cutting back on the tree belts around the powerlines...

2 posted on 11/04/2011 3:58:03 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: matt04; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Shouldn’t the senior housing owners be doing this one already? #justsaying

Nanny State PING!


3 posted on 11/04/2011 4:00:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

You musst haff ze generator, ja?


4 posted on 11/04/2011 4:00:55 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One in my town had to have several fire depts come out to remove the people from the 2nd fl because they never put in a generator. Now they are reportedly scrambling to get one installed. Idiots.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 4:07:32 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

The problem with America is the job description “lawmaker”.

Really.

After 225 years as a nation, fact is we have every single law we’ll ever need, about anything.

We need a new name for that job, calling it “lawmaker” just compounds the problem. We already have too many laws.


6 posted on 11/04/2011 4:12:46 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: matt04

So that’s just fine and dandy is the state of Connecticut going to pay the 7000.00 plus dollars it will cost to install a generator system or are they going to subsidize it?Either way the tax payers are going to take the hit in the wallet again.

After all Connecticut is not in the best of financial health right now .Neither are it’s taxpayers.


7 posted on 11/04/2011 4:15:52 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: taildragger

How about also burying power lines where possible? I’m sure it’s expensive, but I would think that the costs related with recurrent power outages would add up as well.


8 posted on 11/04/2011 4:17:37 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: taildragger

CT already has extraordinarily high electric rates. The trouble with such utility monopolies is that allotting them more profit doesn’t tend to translate into higher customer service: with a captive market, utilities will provide as low a level of service as regulators let them get away with.

Poor tree-trimming and other delivery-line maintenance is now a problem with all the electric companies in the Northeast. Regulators have to crack down on them somehow.


9 posted on 11/04/2011 4:18:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: matt04
In order to comply with the EPA rules for reducing CO2 and other pollutants and greenhouse gases, these generators will have to be wind and/or geo-thermally powered.
10 posted on 11/04/2011 4:20:07 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: 9YearLurker

Or you could get a generator...


11 posted on 11/04/2011 4:21:13 AM PDT by DB
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Shouldn’t the senior housing owners be doing this one already? #justsaying”

In civilized states such as Texas, we do.


12 posted on 11/04/2011 4:30:18 AM PDT by ngat
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Furthermore, the state will mandate the generator exhaust ducting will be routed into the home/building/retirement residence.

Reducing both greenhouse and population impacts...win/win, ja?

(/calls Godwin's Law on self, 15 minutes away from the keyboard penalty)

13 posted on 11/04/2011 4:33:19 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("To Serve Manatee" is a cookbook!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We need a new name for that job, calling it “lawmaker” just compounds the problem. We already have too many laws.

A M E N!

The only reason to run for Congress, is to get in there and begin to eliminate everything but the first ten amendments, and the ten commandments. Everything else is superfluous, or reserved to the various STATES.

OK, maybe that is a little extreme, but for those who have been screaming that everyone in the United States is either a child, a convicted or unconvicted felon, based on the amount of law floating around. We aren’t far off.


14 posted on 11/04/2011 4:35:28 AM PDT by wita
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To: matt04

I think it would be a state law that withing a certain sized area of density or distance and types of weather conditions that service stations do indeed must have a generator capable of continuing pump service.


15 posted on 11/04/2011 4:35:57 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: matt04

I would suppose that the enterprising gas station, supermarket, convenience store owner can’t think that far ahead?

Generators are not that expensive. Even a portable one will power a few gasoline pumps.

Could have a monopoly on gas sales - even charge a few cents more and cover your costs with a few thousand gallons of gas.


16 posted on 11/04/2011 4:38:05 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: msrngtp2002

New housing developments have power lines underground - but the feeder cables are still vulnerable.

You would think that developers with vision would have installed natural gas powered generators in all new homes. Worth the cost and a huge selling point.

True for high-rise condos, businesses and gas stations. With generators in place - there is no need for emergency tree removal - just routine trimming maintenance.

Every area in the US is subject to power loss - from severe wind and snow storms. You would think the utility companies would be marketing their own whole-house, permanent generators. Natural gas - safer than gasoline.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 4:55:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: msrngtp2002
This proposed law is just wrong on so many levels.
It might be legal and proper to require future construction to have generators, but mandating current service stations to install them doesn't pass muster on any level.
Service stations are not public utilities and have no obligation to remain open in a weather emergency.
Are they going to mandate that joe and jane minimum wage cashiers stay at their post pumping gas while ignoring their families elsewhere?
What about the responsibility of the people that created the traffic jams to have planned ahead and not put themselves in danger to begin with?
If service stations want to install generators, government should allow them to, not create some hair brained scheme to buy them and resell them. It smells of corruption.
18 posted on 11/04/2011 5:10:00 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: DB

Yeah, but it’s pretty ridiculous to have your electric utility not deliver for a few weeks out of every 52-week year when it used to be able to do so.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 5:16:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: matt04
Maybe just tell Ct folks to turn on the damn TV and watch the weather report AND MAYBE FILL UP BEFORE THE STORM!!!

My son is there.

20 posted on 11/04/2011 5:45:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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