Third Party Witnesses - Sounds like bull to me... I need to hear it from the woman.
1 posted on
11/03/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by
bbernard
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To: bbernard
There's a lot of assumption out there that the two slept together. Here's what the passage from PJM says:
Afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up. Very important people make a distinction here. Perhaps the source would like us all to believe they were in bed together, but there's nothing to indicate that was the case.
176 posted on
11/03/2011 10:56:34 AM PDT by
ScottinVA
(Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
To: bbernard
So now they escalate the charges.
Forget this. Unless they can provide proof, I won't buy it even for a second. Until there's proof, this is slander.
185 posted on
11/03/2011 10:59:49 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
To: bbernard
Don’t worry. 60 minutes will do a special interview of Cain and his wife, she will say she is standing by her man, and he’ll go on to win the nomination.
Ow, wait he not a Democrat?
Never mind.
198 posted on
11/03/2011 11:02:22 AM PDT by
Raycpa
To: bbernard
Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? What's the agenda of the mid-level staffer?
200 posted on
11/03/2011 11:03:08 AM PDT by
ScottinVA
(Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
To: bbernard
I noticed several places in this thread where members quoted the article saying “she woke up in his bed.”
So I read the article just now and it says she spent the night there “and woke up.” Period. Nothing about a bed. Has the PJ site deleted the bed?
She slept and “woke up” - a curious sentence - of course she woke up, where - the sofa?
To: bbernard
Still anonymous. More egregious charges, but still most likely leftist character assassination.
Anyone assuming this is TRUE, who posts here as a conservative on a conservative website and claims to be a THINKER, should be ashamed.
206 posted on
11/03/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by
ohioWfan
(Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
To: bbernard
Now that the SRM is doing such a good job (sic) of covering this story, I’m sure that they will put forth the same effort to cover,and ask Zero about, the murders of Donald Young, Larry Bland and Nate Spenser. You will recall that all three were members of Zero’s Chicago church, all three were gay and all three were shot in the head within 40 days starting in November 2007. While they’re at it they can investigate, and ask the POTUS, what happened to Lieutenant Quarles who was close to finding out who accessed and scrubbed Zero’s passport records, and was also shot to death!
214 posted on
11/03/2011 11:05:53 AM PDT by
Batman11
(Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
To: Jim Robinson
Sir, isn't it time to take this bull shit innuendo lynching more seriously and edit some of these agitprops from the forum posting privileges? I mean this thread poster is playing a farcical game of feint praise all the way to ‘serious implications’ in only a hundred or so hits posted, with zero evidence yet provided! How much more ridiculous can Freerepublic be made to look than allowing this continued democratesque Clarence Thomas style lynching by innuendo to go on and on and on and on?
226 posted on
11/03/2011 11:09:20 AM PDT by
MHGinTN
(Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
To: bbernard
So one of his employees gets plastered at a party. He let’s her crash at his pad to sleep it off instead of letting her drive drunk. Nothing sexual is said to have happened.... and somehow Cain is the bad guy?
To: bbernard
A way to illuminate the ridiculousness of this nonsense is for every conservative woman in America to call her local radio station and newspaper and state that she was harassed by Herman Cain.
253 posted on
11/03/2011 11:17:59 AM PDT by
Ranger Warrior
("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
To: bbernard; Cincinatus' Wife; shield; casinva; smoothsailing
So, if we copied this thread and switched all the Cain references to Clinton, would it look anything similar to one of the left wing forums during the Clinton/Jones/Lewinsky scandals?
The twisting that some of us will do to defend our guy is incredible.
And we used to laugh at them for that.
To: bbernard
A previous version of this story mentioned that a source witnessed Cain and the woman entering a taxi together. This was incorrect.So she took her own taxi to Cain's apartment? Why?
265 posted on
11/03/2011 11:23:05 AM PDT by
kevao
To: bbernard
LOL, rush takes this story apart, very funny, he said she said, may have seen, was not there. LOL
274 posted on
11/03/2011 11:26:47 AM PDT by
org.whodat
(Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
To: bbernard
PJ media has edited this story.
The earlier version said witnesses saw them get into a taxi together. Now it says “Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment”.
The earlier version said “she woke up in his BED”. The current version says “she wokd up in his APARTMENT”.
290 posted on
11/03/2011 11:33:00 AM PDT by
Brookhaven
(Just say #So? to the mainstream media smears)
To: bbernard
No named source, nobody for Cain to go after in court for slander.
The whole point is to take Cain down by a scandal that if her were a democrat the press would be circling the wagon, sitting on the info to help the democrat, and painting the women as sluts (reference: Clinton, Edwards, Kennedys).
They don’t care if it’s true or not. Not important. Just keeping the thing alive and out there continues to tarnish and smear. Keep doubt alive. That’s the agenda here.
I think the real story is the media hypocrisy and their blatant difference in how they treat democrat and republican candidates. If you’re their ideological buddy, they shield you. If not, they run with it even after it’s proven false. If any info doesn’t help them take you down or exonerates you, they will not print it.
308 posted on
11/03/2011 11:37:41 AM PDT by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: bbernard
I'm reserving judgment against Cain and the accusers until more of the facts come to light. Generally my thoughts thus far are:
- I am somewhat bothered by the fact that Cain's answers have changed repeatedly in various interviews. Although, when recalling an event from 12 or more years ago, it's not unusual to remember more details as you begin thinking about what happened. More details is acceptable. Contradictory details are not
- I accept the idea that Cain was not involved in the settlement negotiaions and therefore cannot speak to them. The NRA's HR Dept. would have handled such negotiations and intentionally excluded Cain from them.
- Cain says the claims were resolved in his favor. Block says Cain wants to move on and discuss campaign issues. That is a little troublesome because if Cain truly was falsely accused, there is no reason to keep the details quiet. He should ask the NRA to release copies of the complaints and the final settlement agreement. At least one accuser seems to want that too.
- It's standard legal procedure to require a confidentiality agreement in any settlement. So the fact that these women cannot provided details does not in and of itself discredit the accusations.
- Anonymous witnesses should not automatically be ignored. There is legtimate reason to fear going public. The witnesses have to consider the consequences to their family members and the potential of damaging relationships with their current employers. Media tend to camp out in front of homes and businesses hoping to get an interview. It's intrusive.
- Three women having issues with Cain indicates a pattern of behavior. One can be ignored as an aberration, but not two or three. There seems to be a "there" there. What that is remains unclear.
336 posted on
11/03/2011 11:46:41 AM PDT by
BuckeyeTexan
(Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: bbernard
And in three days Cain has raised upwards of $1m and has now surged ahead of Romney in the Rasmussen poll. LOL. Keep it up Rino/libs.
341 posted on
11/03/2011 11:48:27 AM PDT by
LS
("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
To: bbernard
Cain’s not an idiot but he is a man. As such, when accusations of sexual impropriety were made he knew his disadvantage and settled to avoid damage to reputation. Very understandable and explainable. But Cain’s seeming inability to shut down the talk with clear explanation and straight answers speaks to a bigger, more tragic truth. He doesn’t want this tale told! He would rather not do what needs be done to clear his name or, more likely, it can’t be cleared and he knows it! Either way his character suffers a fatal wound. If he won’t fight unjust accusation or own up to indiscretion he’s not a man I can champion for president.
I’m afraid he’s toast!
To: bbernard
This still isn't making it on my radar. She was drunk. Getting plastered at an office function is nothing short of low life scum. None of us know what did or didn't happen inside the apartment but she didn't call the cops or get a rape test at the hospital so it's he said/she said.
Just yesterday, Chris Wilson claimed some un-named something happened several times yet he never stepped in to stop it. So, this gal had a habit of getting drunk and snuggling up to upper management? Or was it that Cain had a habit of taking drunk young things to his apartment? Where was Cain's wife during all this?
Her female coworkers apparently weren't too concerned with her getting snockered and apparently weren't too worried about her safety since they didn't step in either. If Cain was a cad, then it would have been the office gossip's duty to tell all new hires to watch themselves around him and we haven't heard that was the case at all. More and more it sounds consensual, IF anything did happen.
I'll be waiting for the lab test to come back on the pizza stained dress.
388 posted on
11/03/2011 12:07:17 PM PDT by
bgill
(The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
To: bbernard
Rush just tore this piece to shreds because they had to add so many corrections to it. In otherwards, it was more salacious nonsense.
404 posted on
11/03/2011 12:14:45 PM PDT by
dforest
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