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27 Years | No Deaths from Vitamins, 3 Million from Prescription Drugs
Natural Society Newsletter ^ | Oct 4,2011 | Anthony Gucciardi

Posted on 11/03/2011 9:56:57 AM PDT by djf

Over the past 27 years — the complete time frame that the data has been available — there have been 0 deaths as a result of vitamins and over 3 million deaths related to prescription drug use. In fact, going back 54 years there have only been 11 claims of vitamin-related death, all of which provided no substantial evidence to link vitamins to the cause of death. The news comes after a recent statistically analysis found that pharmaceutical drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the US. In 2009, drugs exceeded the amount of traffic-related deaths, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at naturalsociety.com ...


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To: Alter Kaker; djf; dangerdoc
AK, perhaps you didn't notice that the material you posted to me contained no scientific data at all - just some descriptive info about the study:
Background
Methods
Results
Conclusions
Author Affiliations
Aaron Folsom, Kristin Anderson, Andrew Flood, David Jacobs, DeAnn Lazovich, or Julie Ross (U of MN); James Cerhan, Celine Vachon, Janet Olson, and Paul Limburg (Mayo Clinic).

And at the top:
Jaakko Mursu, PhD; Kim Robien, PhD; Lisa J. Harnack, DrPH, MPH; Kyong Park, PhD; David R. Jacobs Jr, PhD

Here's some related material which you might find interesting, informative, and full of scientific data as well.

Can vitamin D help prevent certain cancers and other diseases such as type 1 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and certain autoimmune and chronic diseases? To answer these questions and more, UCSD School of Medicine and GrassrootsHealth bring you this innovative series on vitamin D deficiency. Join nationally recognized experts as they discuss the latest research and its implications.

In this program, Cedric Garland, Dr. PH, discusses the expected vitamin D serum level for cancer prevention. Series: Vitamin D Deficiency – Treatment and Diagnosis [2/2009] [Health and Medicine] [Professional Medical Education][Show ID: 15767]


It's a longish video, but well worth your time if you watch the whole thing.
41 posted on 11/07/2011 11:04:30 AM PST by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: caveat emptor
AK, perhaps you didn't notice that the material you posted to me contained no scientific data at all - just some descriptive info about the study:

I can't post the study itself. It's not public domain. However, with the citation I gave you, you can go to any university or even decent public library and read the study yourself.

42 posted on 11/07/2011 11:48:08 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: caveat emptor

You will need to go to the library to get the full articles.


43 posted on 11/07/2011 12:57:19 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Mase

+1.


44 posted on 11/07/2011 1:00:37 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: caveat emptor; Alter Kaker; dangerdoc

Interesting video. Thanks.

The guy is obviously a quack. After all, everybody knows that no lowly vitamin could possibly give results that are as good as highly sophisticated chemical compounds!!
/Sarc

OK. Let me start this way.
I know biology is a complex subject.
I know medicine/therapies is also a complex subject.

I don’t come here and post these articles to take or advocate an extreme position in either side.

The vid was a breath of fresh air. There seems to be neither an overt hostility to Vitamin D as a preventative, nor is their overriding hype/promises about Vitamin D as a therapy.

It seems that more often than not, people are in one camp or the other when it comes to treatments/ideas, either by-the-book med school approaches or looney-tunes take-off all our clothes and eat dirt naturalist approaches.

I personally am at neither end of that spectrum. I admit to taking a fair number of supplements but that is because study after study, when you put them all together, show that there is NO “balanced diet” that could give you enough of all you need unless you were willing to eat 15,000 calories a day!

So I sit here with a few bottles of Vit C, D, and E next to me oftentimes reading abstracts and reviews. It should be obvious that I know how to read them when I pointed out about that 3 data points over 25) years IS NOT sufficient to conclude what they did. And REGARDLESS OF WHAT MORONS SUGGEST I READ/DON’T READ, they don’t EVEN HAVE A CLUE that next to my bottles of vitamins near my couch is an unabridged copy of Gray’s Anatomy, 1974 edition. And we ain’t talkin some dumb TV show! Regardless of what some horses posterior thinks or knows what I read!!

Do I believe the title of the article? Zero deaths from vitamins?
I’m not sure. Deaths from vitamins/supplements are very hard to track and verify. I have never heard of a death from Vit C, Vit B, any of the water-soluble Vitamins. I have heard of complications from Vit A and Vitamin D, which usually stop as soon as the overdosing stops.
And all the problems with A and D have been accidental, not intentional. The two incidents that stand out most in my mind are the thalidomide problems of years ago and the withdrawal of tryptophan from the shelves (and that was shown to be contamination, not anything related to tryptophan itself).

Three million deaths from prescriptions over 27 years? This may be a number that is a bit overblown. We might want to grant someone the shadow of a doubt and agree that the number is lower, but HOW MUCH lower? Half that number? One million? We might even want to be extremely generous and drop that figure (remember, we’re doing this in our minds and ignoring published studies that show 3 million) down to 500,000.

That’s still way, way, way beyond any number we can come up with for vitamins.

Do I think that no matter what the malady, there is something “natural” to cure it? Of course not, that’s just plain silly.

Do I believe that there are some diseases that might respond to natural treatments far better than current accepted practices?
You bet I do!

Look at statins.
One of the most highly prescribed medications in the world.
It’s red yeast rice, that’s what it is. Red yeast rice.
Like it or lump it, the statins are analogs (engineered chemicals) based on the foundational chemicals found in red yeast rice.

I am concerned that the large pharma institutes and the FDA are trying to adapt the European Codex model where you
can no longer buy simple vitamins/supplements OTC.

Especially when every advertisement you see on the television for prescription drugs of all flavors and colors comes with a laundry list of side effects as long as your arm. (I saw one the other day that actually said DEATH could be a side effect!) I guess if you die the doctor will just take you off that particular prescription...

I appreciate reasoned, researched, logical discussions about the issues. I pretty much stop reading when I hear off the wall statements like “I don’t care about Prozac or any alleged cover up of any side effects”... straight from the horses behind, I guess...


45 posted on 11/07/2011 6:44:06 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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