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To: Don Corleone
Many of us who "experienced the '60s first-hand" came away with a somewhat different point of view that the author.

The 1960s featured an infantile, solipsistic, navel-gazing generation of spoiled, wealthy children endlessly banging spoons on their high chairs, demanding as a right the freedom to do whatever they felt like without responsibility or adverse consequence, and to take as much of what someone else had and they wanted, and if they didn't get it right now, why, they'd throw another tantrum.

So they did. And that tantrum has now lasted 45 years.

10 posted on 11/03/2011 7:13:29 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I agree.

The result of the 60’s was a moral decline in America from which will likely never recover.

This time I believe that it will be a financial decline from which we will never recover.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 7:22:02 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: andy58-in-nh

Mr. Greene wouldn’t know, he was 10 years old in the mid sixties.

Here is a story about billionaire Jeff Greene:

“Posted by Atenantofjeffs | 09/02/10 10:20 AM EDT
I was a tenant of Jeff’s for over 10 years throughout the 90’s. Throughout this time I had numerous conversations with vendors of Jeff including everything from groundskeepers to bankers and real estate agents.

Jeff made his money in the 80’s by approaching banks with design plans for a building. For example, he would get an amount say $5 million to build the building correctly, get the loan from the bank to build, and then build the cheapest building he could pocketing much of the construction money.

In some cases he would forfeit the property but of course keep the difference leaving the bank to own a shell of the property that he promised to build-Borrow 5 million, build a problematic building for 3 million, keep the rest and toss the building back to the bank if he felt like it or if the rents were good just rent it out.

The property that I was in was fitted with an ancient AC unit(think big industrial office building AC unit) The roof had access to it and the contractor showed me the dates on the AC unit predated by MANY years the construction of the building although he told the bank he was building an all new building.

It went on and on. He would hire gardeners, let them work for 2-3 months and never pay them. He’d just hire some more. There was the famous story of some house/mansion in Malibu where he pulled the same funny-business with the bank and a loan and stiffed many of the contractors that worked on the house so much so that the contractors returned to the house to inflict damage.

One plumber I talked to poured something called “liquid plumber” which was a powder that turned into solid concrete down his plumbing because Jeff wouldn’t pay him for work done. Apparently it ruined his wood floors. It went on and on for over 10 years the stories people would tell about him. He’s a legendary cheap skate/criminal.

Quite often you can run into someone in LA that has either been a tenant or a vendor for Jeff and it is always a combination of horrible experience”

More tales at link: http://rate.forbes.com/comments/CommentServlet?op=cpage&sourcename=story&StoryURI=forbes/2008/1006/266.html&com=143377


16 posted on 11/03/2011 7:26:36 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: andy58-in-nh; DLfromthedesert; amom

Well said, andy. I was of that generation and I praise God that somehow I was able to disdain and side-step most of the nonsense. (God gave me a very good choice of parents!)

So yes, we should listen to and not ignore these skulls full of mush. We must do as much as we can to (re)educate them and those who are younger than them truly to reality and the more positive road this country can offer. We should pray daily for God to accomplish this, for we ourselves of ourselves have not been able to. The rats gnawing at the vitals of our educational system have done their damage, and truly it is in the hands of God (as well as us being His hands and feet to speak) if any of these ones can now be salvageable.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 7:47:07 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Tea Party outnumbers the Flea Party!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Time to again drag out the best quote from my favorite political "analyst"

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

30 posted on 11/03/2011 7:58:47 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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