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Certifigate : Sheriff Joe: 'Show me the microfilm!'
WND ^ | November 01, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/01/2011 11:33:17 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Sheriff Joe Arpaio came up with the idea to demand the original microfilm of Obama's birth certificate after he saw evidence from his Cold Case Posse in Maricopa County, Ariz., that the White House apparently released to the public three different versions of the long-form birth certificate.

"Show me the microfilm, not the copies the White House released," Arpaio has insisted.

What the White House released on April 27 were not original documents but purportedly scans of original birth documents that remain in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.

WND reported yesterday that in 1966, the Hawaii Depatment of Health provided microfilm copies to Mrs. Eleanor Nordyke of the birth certificates for her twins, born the day after Obama in the same hospital.

"Obama's birth certificate is either on that microfilm roll along with the Nordyke twins' birth certificate, or it's not," Arpaio said.

Sources close to the sheriff's law enforcement investigation explained to WND that Arpaio had come up with a solution to end almost immediately a controversy over the Obama birth certificate that has continued since 2008.

"If the microfilm exists, show us the reel. That's the best evidence the document existed in 1961, not the three different versions the White House released on April 27."

The White House released three versions of Obama's long-form birth certificate, each one of which appears fundamentally different from the other two.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; birthcertificate; certifigate; coldcaseposse; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; posse; sheriffjoe; usurper
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1 posted on 11/01/2011 11:33:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

“Let’s Go To The Tape…”


2 posted on 11/01/2011 11:54:01 PM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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To: RobinMasters

He’s got a point!


3 posted on 11/01/2011 11:55:04 PM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Cain today to show the media they can't choose our candidate this time.)
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To: RobinMasters
MSM ... crickets chirping. STILL!

Put an "R" besides Obama's name and this would be HEADLINE NEWS!

4 posted on 11/02/2011 12:14:20 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: RobinMasters

bfl


5 posted on 11/02/2011 12:46:47 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: RobinMasters

It will be interesting to see how this goes.


6 posted on 11/02/2011 3:18:32 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RobinMasters

Love that Joe


7 posted on 11/02/2011 4:00:04 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Yaelle

I made a statement long ago that the microfilm would be the only convincing evidence because a single reel or sheet would contain hundreds of records ,, any single record could be faked but not hundreds.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 4:01:04 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: RobinMasters

Why doesn’t Sheriff Joe subpoena Obama’s immigration file at DHS?


9 posted on 11/02/2011 5:54:07 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: algernonpj

Probably nowhere like everything else. The subpoena will be quashed.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 7:51:53 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: SvenMagnussen

Because he’s not stupid enough to fall for that?


11 posted on 11/02/2011 11:26:08 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: goldi
“The subpoena will be quashed.”

All civil subpoenas have been quashed, but I expect that a criminal subpoena or search warrant of HI records would be honored (after the usual foot-dragging and race-card playing) because Obama cannot claim and HI cannot honor his personal privacy claims in a criminal matter involving forgery of identity documents, IMO.

Arpaio cannot go on a fishing expedition based on speculation that there is no microfiche 1961 LFBC, so there would have to be much stronger evidence of a crime sufficient to persuade federal judges to compel HI DOH cooperation at the end of the appeals process.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 11:55:48 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: RobinMasters

What is the sheriff’s next step?

Form a grand jury with subpoena power?

File a criminal complaint and get the local prosecutor to subpoena the microfiche?

How does he get the reel?


13 posted on 11/02/2011 11:56:06 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Neidermeyer
You hit the nail on the head!



But then they'll say microfiche destroyed by fire!

14 posted on 11/02/2011 2:09:10 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: Seizethecarp
Arpaio cannot go on a fishing expedition based on speculation that there is no microfiche 1961 LFBC, so there would have to be much stronger evidence of a crime sufficient to persuade federal judges to compel HI DOH cooperation at the end of the appeals process.

IIUC correctly, you don't need strong evidence of a crime in order to get a criminal subpoena. All you need are general allegations and a compelling state interest. Sheriff Joe would need to cite a state law which would have been broken by Obama, such as fraud in his presidential preference election nomination form in 2008. OR it could be possibly through a pre-emptive challenge to Obama's inclusion on the Arizona ballot in 2012.

15 posted on 11/04/2011 7:14:58 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Neidermeyer

The splicing tape at the beginning and end of Obama’s forged birth certificate on the microfiche would hopefully not be rationalized as “normal” and “routine” by the HI DOH.


16 posted on 11/04/2011 7:16:18 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

That’s a possibility ,, hopefully the film would be on 4” by 6” sheets and not on reels.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 10:59:10 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: edge919

IBM’s system360 didn’t come about until 1963 ,, storage devices (DASD and even tape) was VERY EXPENSIVE at that time , optical storage in the form of Kodaks and StorageTEK’s units wouldn’t come about until the 1980’s , also it was highly desirable to have a medium (fiche) that didn’t need some kind of proprietary and very expensive reader to retrieve records on. The RATE of retrieval was in actuality quite minimal , there was no “online” access to visual files then , even for people local to the mainframe(s)... FICHE WAS THEN AND REMAINS THE PREFERRED LONG TERM OFF-SITE BACKUP. Because of it’s compactness there is NO reason to destroy it after digitization... for the few million records a state like HAWAII would generate you’re talking one 4 drawer filing cabinet at most.

here’s a bit from “Northeast Document Conservation Center (NEDCC)”

Amidst the bells and whistles of the digital revolution, preservation microfilming quietly maintains its status as a highly valued and widely practiced preservation reformatting strategy. And why not?

The enduring popularity of preservation microfilm is because of its practicality. Unlike its digital counterpart, microfilm is the product of a nearly static, tested technology that is governed by carefully crafted national standards. When created and stored according to these standards, microfilm boasts a life expectancy of 500+ years.1 It is also worth noting that, while digital data require use of a sophisticated retrieval system to access their treasures, microforms (i.e., microfilm and microfiche) can be read by the naked eye using only light and magnification.

The access potential of microforms admittedly pales in comparison with that of digital technology. Still, microforms can enhance access to information that would otherwise be unavailable because the original item is at a distant site or is vulnerable to damage and/or loss through handling. Also, microforms are relatively inexpensive to produce and to copy.

One key indicator of the continuing relevance of preservation microfilming is its ongoing support at the national level.


18 posted on 11/04/2011 11:14:29 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer
Let Obama present original BC that mama gave him, original, wrinkled, not phony photoshoped baloney!!!
What did he use when he was vetted before running for office???
Or he doesn't have one and managed to fraud himself into presidency???
19 posted on 11/05/2011 8:38:20 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: RobinMasters

Hawaii needs to let a group of people, including both skeptics and non-skeptics, come in and see the original documents.

Video tape the documents. What is Obama hiding?

Until this is done, I will refuse to believe the clown is our legitimate president.


20 posted on 11/06/2011 10:50:01 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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