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Are Public-School Teachers Underpaid?
National Review ^ | 11/01/2011 | Andrew G. Biggs

Posted on 11/01/2011 9:11:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/01/2011 9:11:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Some are; some aren’t.


2 posted on 11/01/2011 9:13:01 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm at no additional charge...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have less of a problem with what teachers are getting paid than with the fact that they are protected and get paid that regardless of whether they are any good at the job.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 9:14:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Some are; some aren’t.

And some aren't worth keeping in the position - except they are anchored there because of tenure.

4 posted on 11/01/2011 9:15:20 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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5 posted on 11/01/2011 9:15:30 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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...most people with education degrees are teachers.

Considering the mindless crap that is taught in course of an education degree, no other segment would hire them.

6 posted on 11/01/2011 9:16:12 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: WayneS

Also factor in that they have summers off and only 180 workdays!


7 posted on 11/01/2011 9:16:29 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“What is needed is pay flexibility, to reward the best teachers and dismiss the worst.”

Says it all.


8 posted on 11/01/2011 9:16:50 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Free Market dictates that your appropriate pay is merely what it would cost to replace you with like kind and quality. For teachers, which is not that hard of a job, that figure is far lower than what they get now.

FTR my wife and I home school our kids and have done some classes for other’s homeschool kids, all for free. In two hours a day, we produced kids that are all WAAAAAAY above grade level.

If anything, as a profession, they are over paid, especially when you factor in bennies and job security and the over all lousy work product (see Occupy Wall Street for the residue of our education system).


9 posted on 11/01/2011 9:17:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bingo!


10 posted on 11/01/2011 9:18:03 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm at no additional charge...)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they think public school teachers are underpaid then they ought to try working in Christian and other private schools that don’t get taxpayer largesse.


11 posted on 11/01/2011 9:18:51 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Daddy to Lily Ann, born 3:50 AM, 10/15/11, 9 lb/4 oz. of joy!)
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Are Public-School Teachers Underpaid?

Some are; some aren’t.

There are a few exceptions, but ...

Do away with public schools, provide vouchers to parents, let parents spend them on competing schools and teachers in the free market along with their own money to the extent they want special teachers and programs, and the answer will be NO.

Until then, given the power of the unions and the dead weight and inefficiency in the civil service, the answer is and always will be YES.

12 posted on 11/01/2011 9:19:58 AM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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The education system is a tool for blackmail by the crooks in government. Tom Tancredo said that the state of Colorado paid $2B for welfare for illegal aliens and the could not find money for schools so they wanted to raise taxes. Our government spenders blow the money on their pet projects and force us to raise taxes to pay for schools.
13 posted on 11/01/2011 9:20:28 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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The best teachers can put their curriculum and course lectures online and let anyone across the US access it.

Fire the teachers we don’t need- and that would be most of them.


14 posted on 11/01/2011 9:21:11 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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The problem is the unions and legislators have made it impossible for a lot of well qualified teachers. Teaching history is something I might want to do when I retire, but as it stands, I’d have to go back to school for an education degree and certifications. This is ridiculous. General Patreaus is not even qualified to teach history at an american public school. Instead of these bureaucratic requirements, a simple test or proof of competency would encourage a lot more qualified teachers to the field that want to share their knowledge for a lot less money. Some do deserve the money, but there are way to many paper tigers teaching in the schools that simply got pushed through a teaching certificate programme. Because of their degrees, they are overpaid and have no real experience.


15 posted on 11/01/2011 9:22:01 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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Decades of research has shown that education is a less rigorous course of study than other majors

You mean 3 credit hour courses on decorating a Home Room Bulletin Board aren't as rigorous as Relativistic Physics? Classes on games you can play with a kick-ball aren't as difficult as Differential Equations, Organic Chemistry, or Statistics?

I will gladly compare my EASIEST required course to the most difficult Education degree required course. To say that they are less 'rigorous' is like saying the ocean is wet.

16 posted on 11/01/2011 9:24:21 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think teachers should be contractors and be forced to offer the best deal for their services.


17 posted on 11/01/2011 9:24:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

LOLOLOL!!!

THAT was priceless!


18 posted on 11/01/2011 9:26:40 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: SeekAndFind

When the public schools are privatized, teachers salaries will drop while quality of education will improve.

Out with political agenda and in with education..


19 posted on 11/01/2011 9:27:15 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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Since they are paid union scale they earn what they deserve.

Sorry teacher with tenure is worth say,10,000 a yr...
Good teacher without tenure is worth say,70,000 a year..

That averages out to 40,000 a year for both...which is what they are all worth to the unions—but their union dues for the Democrats are priceless.

20 posted on 11/01/2011 9:30:27 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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