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Cain's Troubles Help Perry, Romney (Anti-Cain whispering campaign started weeks ago)
The National Journal ^ | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011 | Charlie Cook

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: alicewonders
Sorry I posted you factual statements with links.

Putting your hands over your eyes and screaming "you are wrong" rather then addressing the facts presented is silly.

21 posted on 11/01/2011 6:22:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: alicewonders

How do you know “there is more to come”?


22 posted on 11/01/2011 6:23:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: alicewonders

This is not good? Why would you care whether it’s good or not, being a Perrybot? The only reason you’re on this thread is to disrupt, because you know in your heart this story doesn’t have legs and Herman Cain scares you to death. And that makes me laugh.

BWAHAAAAAHAAAAAAA


23 posted on 11/01/2011 6:24:35 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Noamie
"...the media hypocrisy is driving a lot of people over the fence FOR Cain. People are tired of these tactics."

I decided yesterday that it is time to circle the wagons around Cain. I looked for his website and made my first donation. bttt

24 posted on 11/01/2011 6:28:04 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: rbmillerjr
I think it is past time someone start questioning Rove about what his ties are to specific campaigns.

He claims to be an "objective" commentator. Fine, then let him clear up the questions about his contacts with other GOP Candidates campaigns

The other thing credible journalists might want to press Rove to clear up just what his role was in the robo-call smear campaign against John McCain in South Carolina prior to the 2000 GOP primary.

Rove needs to put these questions to bed by releasing any documentation he has clearing up the allegations that he staged that the smear job against McCain.

(Note to the Rovebots, how do you like being on the receiving end of your own media tactics for a change?)

25 posted on 11/01/2011 6:28:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: alicewonders

IMO first Cain and Bachmann, and then Perry, were tossed in by the Establishment to fracture the conservative vote and discourage Palin. Perry’s entry was and is as a backup in case they really can’t force Romney into the nomination.

When Perry surged ahead too rapidly, they were glad to give Cain a boost. Now that Cain has surged ahead, sure, the Romney team wants to see him stalled—but not so desperately as the Perry team. He’s got both halves of the Establishment camp after him.

Like Bachmann’s and Gingrich’s, Cain’s campaign has had the hallmarks of a book tour, and the doubt is whether either Cain or Gingrich could get retooled for a legitimate run quickly enough—especially since Rubio’s man got FL moved up for Mitt.

On top of that, IMO, the pros have real reasons to doubt that the Cain phenomenon could withstand a race against Obama.


26 posted on 11/01/2011 6:28:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rbmillerjr

Buy more ammo.

Stock up.

I am convinced that if anybody but Cain gets the Republican nomination, s/he will lose to 0bamao.

I am also convinced that this is what the elites of both parties have predetermined, because they are in bed together.

Cain is the only real threat to 0bamao and the agenda of the elites, and they want him destroyed at any cost.

It is the job of the American people to make those costs higher than the elites are willing to pay. Unfortunately, it appears they are pushing their agenda with demonic fervor, much like the Iranians, not caring that they could be obliterated, because they really, really believe they are serving a higher purpose.

And perhaps they are.

For those of us who have read the end of The Book, this could be the beginning of The End.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 6:31:54 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: alicewonders
You’re just plain wrong - and you’re going to see it over the next few days. There is more to come.

So, you have access to Perry's "dirt file" on Cain? Interesting...

28 posted on 11/01/2011 6:32:31 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: miss marmelstein
Hum a Perrywinkle saying there is more to come on Cain...

Makes one wonder WHO is behind the smear campaign...

29 posted on 11/01/2011 6:33:08 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Hum a Perrywinkle saying there is more to come on Cain...

Makes one wonder WHO is behind the smear campaign...

30 posted on 11/01/2011 6:33:14 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: alicewonders

I will not fall for the Perry flavor of the week. I’ll stick with Cain, thank you.


31 posted on 11/01/2011 6:35:08 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: rbmillerjr
BTW, Chuck Todd just brought up Cain’s Cancer as a concern.

THAT is where I've predicted the libs will land on Cain if all else fails. "Concern" about Cain's health... "concern" he could die in office... "concern" about instability in a challenging world... "concern" that it's unwise to elect a cancer "victim."

32 posted on 11/01/2011 6:35:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: Westbrook

Cain will prevail if we rally around him.

He is the last viable conservative standing.

If RINO Romney should win...the GOP is going to be shocked at the reaction. Obama will be re-elected.


33 posted on 11/01/2011 6:37:17 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: ejonesie22

Yes, I found that remark very interesting. I hope to pursue it further.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 6:37:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: moovova
I agree with you. This will not hurt Cain, unless there's more to surface but so far, I think Cain benefits from this.

I have huge issues with Cain but it's because of his ability to take two sides of a single issue--such as abortion, gun rights, TARP, as well as others.

This issue came along at just the right time to divert attention away from Cain's flip flopping.

Cain flip flops just like Romney, the difference is that Cain is doing his flip flopping now and Romney did his in the past.

35 posted on 11/01/2011 6:38:15 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TADSLOS

Heck, nobody needs a dirt file on Perry. It is all over the place for anyone to see. He never met a crony deal he didn’t like. Egads.

It is a real embarrassment.

Proof is that he isn’t even on top in his own state.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 6:38:28 AM PDT by dforest
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To: kristinn
Posted so we can see that the D.C. insider campaign againt Cain has been in the works for weeks since he started gaining support.

The problem is, anyone could have seen this. If Cain's chief of staff couldn't see this for the smoke, he should be replaced. Anyone running for a top office or job knows before hand that if they have any "skeletons", it doesn't matter if the are "untrue", you better identify them and have a plan on how to deal with them. That Cain's campaign was totally unprepared is very troubling. This is the first time I have felt that Cain and his staff may not be up to the job of running a national campaign. I don't know what I would have left though after Cain. Maybe Gingrich, but with his"baggage" I'm not so sanguine that he could beat Obama.

This episode by Cain is not a small thing, I think it will be devastating, mostly because of how poorly he handled it. I feel sick about it.

37 posted on 11/01/2011 6:40:28 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Just a FYI: Cain never flip-flopped on abortion. I’m sure if you saw the edited version of the Morgan interview that took out the question he was answering, you might see that. Or, if you wanted to see a flip-flop so that it would help your candidate, you might see one where it did not exist. But wishing does not make it true.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 6:41:06 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: rbmillerjr

> If RINO Romney should win...the GOP is going to be shocked
> at the reaction. Obama will be re-elected.

I don’t think the Republican establishment will be shocked at all.

I believe this is the desired outcome for the elites of both parties.


39 posted on 11/01/2011 6:43:12 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: alicewonders

Hate to break it to you, but Cain is the first candidate I have seen real excitement about in this election cycle. I was all for Perry, and could be if he makes vast improvements, but in talking to a number of different Republicans of all types, without exception, they see me and can’t wait to start raving about Herman Cain.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 6:43:34 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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