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Another Question, This Time Financial, for Herman Cain
The New York Times ^ | October 31, 2011 | NICHOLAS CONFESSORE

Posted on 10/31/2011 3:36:34 PM PDT by mdittmar

Early in his candidacy, Herman Cain may have accepted tens of thousands of dollars in goods and services for his campaign from a tax-exempt organization founded by his top aide, documents from the organization show, raising the prospect of serious violations of tax and election law by both Mr. Cain’s campaign and the organization.

The documents suggest that the nonprofit organization, Prosperity USA, effectively subsidized some early costs of his presidential bid, paying for computer equipment, charter planes and air travel for Mr. Cain or the aide, Mark Block, who is his chief of staff.

Such expenditures would violate federal election and campaign laws, which prohibit tax-exempt groups from engaging in any political activity or contributing to election campaigns, a major problem for Mr. Cain. He spent much of Monday fending off accusations that he had sexually harassed two former employees of a trade association he once led.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anotherpileofslime; bullmitt; cain; cainscandals; campaignfinance; hermancain; prosperityusa; slimeslinging; stinkslikemitt; theyfearhim
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To: justsaynomore

If anything, the recent smear attempts might cause some soft suppporters to take out their checkbooks to help him out.


101 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: rcrngroup

This will become a full-time drama in which, at best, Cain may be thought to be an incompetent crisis manager and, at worst, a creep and a liar


102 posted on 11/01/2011 7:21:54 AM PDT by bt579 (If you voted for Obama to prove you werent racist, vote someone else 2012 to prove ur not a Idiot)
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To: rcrngroup

This will become a full-time drama in which, at best, Cain may be thought to be an incompetent crisis manager and, at worst, a creep and a liar


103 posted on 11/01/2011 7:22:07 AM PDT by bt579 (If you voted for Obama to prove you werent racist, vote someone else 2012 to prove ur not a Idiot)
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To: bt579

Maybe if you post those exact words four more times, someone will give a damn. Give it a shot, see how it goes.


104 posted on 11/01/2011 7:28:36 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Robert DeLong

That’s the same story I quoted, idiot. The NY Times is wrong. The DLC is tax exempt. So is Planned Parenthood and NARAL. All three engage in political activities.


105 posted on 11/01/2011 7:38:50 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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105 posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 9:38:50 AM by Hoodat: “That’s the same story I quoted, idiot. The NY Times is wrong. The DLC is tax exempt. So is Planned Parenthood and NARAL. All three engage in political activities.”

501(c)3 or 501(c)4? There is a difference.

The ban on political activities applies to 501(c)3 groups. It's not unusual for an organization which primarily does educational/religious/charitable activities to also have a loosely connected 501(c)4 to handle explicitly political activities.

An obvious example would be a church group with a religious and educational mission that may lead its members to disagree with current political views.

Donations to the church are and should be tax-exempt for its religious and charitable and educational work. To a **VERY** limited extent, education may include political activity — we have not yet reached the point that pastors are told they can't open up the Bible and preach against gay marriage.

However, if the church members decide they are obligated by Scripture to campaign against specific candidates for public office because of their support for gay marriage, they would be well-advised either to join an existing political organization and support it, or to form a political committee and not try to do explicit political activity with church donation dollars.

Personally I don't have a problem with saying that if a church is going to accept tax-exempt status it needs to follow the rules, and with saying that donations for political purposes don't qualify as tax-exempt. That seems to be a legitimate application of “render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.” On the other hand, it's a good idea to encourage Caesar to change his views, or in a republic like ours, to vote Caesar out of office if he harasses churches with the tax code.

If this is underlying the issues with Herman Cain, giving back the money would be a really good idea for him — and then for him to point out the well-known reality that historically black churches routinely support Democrats, and for Herman Cain to ask the question of whether any of this would have been a problem if he had been a Democratic candidate for state office, Congress, or the Senate. (In fairness, the same accusations would have been leveled against **ANYONE** running for President, regardless of party — it's the political activities of black churches on behalf of Democrats for lower offices which generally don't get investigated.)

106 posted on 11/01/2011 10:49:46 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Randy Larsen

There’s not a day that goes by where I don’t find more reasons to like Herman Cain. He’s been my guy from the beginning even though Freepers were telling me he’d “get slaughtered”.


107 posted on 11/01/2011 11:07:18 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: darrellmaurina

The DLC is a 501(c)4. I am not sure about the others.


108 posted on 11/01/2011 12:56:56 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: demshateGod

I probably would have been one of those before Palin chickened out. I need a conservative with heart, smarts, strong will, honesty, integrity and above all, courage.

Cain now fits those qualifications to a T!


109 posted on 11/01/2011 4:47:37 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: All

This question is for all who read from this point on...

Does anyone know if Cain is for tort reform?


110 posted on 11/01/2011 4:50:07 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: bt579

You posted that five times, huh? Troll.


114 posted on 11/01/2011 6:49:53 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: glock rocks

Bump that, glock..


115 posted on 11/01/2011 8:39:07 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (tagline goes here)
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To: ntnychik

You’re right nit, Obama can do no wrong, the world’s gone crazy.


116 posted on 11/01/2011 9:16:25 PM PDT by potlatch
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