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Posted on 10/31/2011 3:31:48 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
How would you feel if your pastor stood in the pulpit this past Sunday opened what you believed to be his Bible and then started to read passages completely unfamiliar to you. Then in the midst of the reading you hear him say Allah instead of God and you realize he is reading not from his Bible, but from the Quran.
How would you feel and what would you do?
If this didn’t happen to you yesterday, count yourself fortunate because it did happen to a number people sitting in Christian churches across America.
Social activists involved with Faith Shared, a program of Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First were trying to promote tolerance and respect of Islam and counter opposition to the Muslim faith. So starting with the National Cathedral in Washington DC, at least fifty other churches in 32 states joined in the effort to host readings from the Quran.
The effort is meant to counter what they refer to as ‘anti-Muslim bigotry and negative stereotypes’ that have been growing in the
US. By getting prominent national and local churches to read from the Quran and teach their congregations about Islam, the Alliance believes it will help make Christians more knowledgeable and tolerant of Islam.
Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, president of Interfaith Alliance said:
“The anti-Muslim rhetoric that has pervaded our national conversation recently has shocked and saddened me. Appreciation for pluralism and respect for religious freedom and other human rights are at the core of our democracy. We believe that demonstrating our commitment to those core American values will help counteract the intensified level of negative stereotypes and anti-Muslim bigotry in our recent public discourse.”
Tad Stahnke of Human Rights First said:
“With Faith Shared, congregations will send a clear message to the world that Americans respect religious differences and reject bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion. This message about the fundamental importance of religious freedom around the world is especially timely as President Obama prepares to reaffirm the United States’ support for democracy in the Middle East starting with a speech later this week.”
Dean Sam Lloyd of the National Cathedral said:
“Few things are more important for the future of our world than to respect, to honor, and to commit ourselves to the well-being of every person—to embrace a sense of humility before the vast mystery of God. As Americans and as people of faith, we must use our great traditions to come together for mutual enrichment and understanding.”
Islam has no tolerance for other religions and if you think it does and want to argue the point, look at the Islamic nations in the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq. They not only preach intolerance for other religions, especially Judaism and Christianity, but they preach the eradication of them. These Muslim nations have laws against the religious practices of other religions. In Egypt, the state police have been harassing Christians and arresting them and beating them.
Yep, that’s tolerance, isn’t it?
Jesus never taught tolerance for other religions, but he also didn’t teach his followers to use violence against them. Instead, Jesus taught his followers to share their faith with those who believe in other religions and to pray for them.
I don’t know about you, but if my pastor had read from the Quran this past Sunday, I would have gotten up in the middle of the service and left. I would also have serious doubts about returning to worship the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ at a church that reads from the Quran and teaches respect for a false religion.
I would make an appointment to meet with the pastor ask him to justify his actions and then I would read 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 to him, which says:
“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,
‘”I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”’
I would also ask my pastor if he believed Jesus in John 14:6 when He said:
“Jesus said to him, ”I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
And Matthew 7:15-16 when Jesus said:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.”
And Matthew 24:10-12 when Jesus said speaking of the last days:
“And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.”
In view of these passages of Scripture, I would ask my pastor to explain why he would dare use the pulpit on the Lord’s Day to teach or promote the religion of a false prophet. My further attendance at his church would depend upon his answers to these questions.
I advise any of you who may have sat in one of these churches to follow the same course of action with your pastor and then make your own judgment on whether or not you want to consider attending that church in the future.
Even the Jivaro Headhunters?
No. there are limits to what is permissible worship behavior.
islame needs to be banned for being the MURDER CULT it is.
The Koran (Quran) as it is set out is intentionally confusing. I believe the 'order' is shortest chapters to longest chapters... A system that has NOTHING to do with how the belief system is interpreted by religious Islamic scholars. The 'shortest to longest chapter' system allows the book to be all things to all people - because Mohammond changed his mind a lot. Only his later thoughts 'count'.
Higher up Imans have the book in order - and they know what matters and what doesn't. English versions of the book are available that are written sequentially. Those are the ONLY books that should be read in a Church - and only those last chapters written ( chronologically). Then the book can be seen for what it really is...
“”This sure as hell isn’t happening in any Catholic churches””
See Post #19. I didn’t expect to find any Baptist churches on the list either - especially in the south - but I was wrong on both counts!
Guess I'll have to share a bridge with her because I agree 100%. The mooselimbs are right up front with their anti Christianity religion, the Mormons, not so much.
I'd get up and walk out if quran or book of mormon were read from in my church.
IMHO Being open minded about Islam is a mistake.
There are nice Muslims - but they're nice in spite of the religion - NOT because of it.
Here's how the Quran works. Mohammad over the course of his life would change a portion of what he wrote - he would 'update' what was written. The newer writings TRUMPED the older. So if he said 'be kind to Jews' in the first few years when he was establishing this religion - but in the last years of his life said to 'kill Jews' only the LAST comments would be binding.
Christian ministers think his comments hold equal weight - they don't. Early comments - usually the more moderate areas of the Koran - are disregarded.
The Koran (Quran) as it is set up is intentionally confusing. I believe the 'order' is shortest chapters to longest chapters... A system that has NOTHING to do with how the belief system is interpreted by religious Islamic scholars. The 'shortest to longest chapter' system allows the book to be all things to all people - because Mohammond changed his mind a lot. Only his later thoughts 'count'.
Higher up Imans have the book in order - and they know what matters and what doesn't. English versions of the book are available that are written sequentially. Those are the ONLY books that should be read in a Church - and only those last chapters written ( chronologically). Then the book can be seen for what it really is...
Actually when the Mormons have had Moslem Imams preaching in their temples...
isnt that the same thing ???
The Koran is quoted then for sure...
Guess I’ll have to share a bridge with her because I agree 100%.
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Bickie ???
I bet it's the Lutheran Churches that allow lesbian preachers and condone gay marriages. As a Catholic, I know where the Church stands. They don't change with the wind.
I absolutely detest those coexist bumper stickers that I see all over Memphis, Tn.
It depends.
If he was explaining why something was WRONG in the koran, or if he was comparing the bible’s position on something in the koran, or if he was doing some kind of study showing for example how the Bible shows how things progressed from beingunder the Law to being under Grace, but in the koran it starts out peaceful but quickly turns violent towards others,
these kinds of things I’d have no problem with.
If he started to use it in terms of it being God’s word, or using part of it to teach a lesson, I’d be gone.
The only time that book should ever be referenced is to explain why it’s wrong, evil and/or the reason why we must realize we are in a real and spiritual war.
Anyone here hear any quran in church or synagogue on Sunday or Saturday? Sounds like WCC stuff. Otherwise it seems made-up.
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Try Catholicism.
I TRULY am not trying to start an argument with you, OK?
My sil is a VERY strict Catholic. Perhaps 10-15 years ago, I foolishly started a conversation w/her regarding Catholics, the pope and the Bible.
She picked my Bible up and threw it on the floor..she said the church doesn’t NEED that “old book” as they have the pope to tell them what they need.
Guess who’s now going to Bible Study? Yep
SIL
And then there are the hadiths!
Any Church (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, Orthodox, or Pentecostal) that calls itself “Christian” has NO BUSINESS reading that satanic book from the pulpit. Perhaps in a discussion group or conference to discuss comparative religions, but NOT from the Pulpit!
I would walk out, then get the elders together to have the preacher thrown out of OUR church. It isn’t the preacher’s church, it’s our church.
If the elders were too gutless to do anything(ain’t gonna happen), I’d go to the state overseer. If he did nothing, I’d go to national, and if the generl overseer did nothing, I’d leave that outfit, and shake the dust from my feet as I did so.
I would run, not walk, to the door, leave and never return.
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