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How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | October 31, 2011 | Onkar Ghate

Posted on 10/31/2011 10:11:20 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Ayn Rand is being hailed a prophet. How could she have anticipated, more than 50 years ago, a United States spinning out of financial control, plagued by soaring spending and crippling

How, people wondered, could Rand have foreseen all this? Was she a prophet? No, she answered. She had simply identified the basic cause of why the country was veering from crisis to new crisis.

Was the solution to “go Galt” and quit society? No, Rand again answered. The solution was simultaneously much easier and much harder. “So long as we have not yet reached the state of censorship of ideas,” she once said, “one does not have to leave a society in the way the characters did in Atlas Shrugged. . . . But you know what one does have to do? One has to break relationships with the culture. . . . [D]iscard all the ideas—the entire cultural philosophy which is dominant today.”

"You have cried that man’s sins are destroying the world and you have cursed human nature for its unwillingness to practice the virtues you demanded,” the novel's hero John Galt declares to a country in crisis. “Since virtue, to you, consists of sacrifice, you have demanded more sacrifices at every successive disaster.”

He elaborates: “You have sacrificed justice to mercy.” (For example, calls to make homeownership “accessible” to those who could not afford it and then bailouts and foreclosure freezes to spare them when they couldn’t pay.)

“You have sacrificed reason to faith.” (For example, attempts to prevent stem cell research on Biblical grounds, or blind faith that Mr. Obama’s deliberately empty rhetoric about hope and change will magically produce prosperity.)

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To: Para-Ord.45
Rand was a monster. Her atheism alone is reason enough to discount her barbaric philosophy.

Without Christ there would have been no America and no American ideal of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

21 posted on 10/31/2011 10:46:42 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Stem cell research is thriving and progressing, and does not ineluctably require or demand the destruction of living nascent human beings.


22 posted on 10/31/2011 10:56:21 AM PDT by Elsiejay (I)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Rand was a monster


23 posted on 10/31/2011 10:59:16 AM PDT by frithguild (Restricting access to capital - Liberalism: The sharpest tool of big business, banks, etc.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
...blind faith that Mr. Obama’s deliberately empty rhetoric about hope and change will magically produce prosperity.)

Blind faith is a gross understatement. From the beginning, when I heard that line, "Change," I thought "uh oh." people can't be that stupid; can they? to accept "change," without the slightest suggestion as to what sort of change?

They were. The question now is are they still that stupid facing the disaster that resulted, and the suggestion that we need more of the same?

Possible. The "Great Uniter" has been an utter failure, judging by his results.

The Great Uniter has divided the Nation into two opposing and irreconcileable camps : The OWS fruitcakes, the idle useless parasites for whom the Nanny State and the elected power brokers do not provide enough. And the working citizens who are viewed by those groups as cash cows, a source of everything without limit.

In terms of societies, the most unstable and ephemeral of powder kegs.

24 posted on 10/31/2011 11:02:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Da Coyote
Oops, that’s “et al,’ not “et all.”

Here, shouldn't it be "et Al"?

25 posted on 10/31/2011 11:02:44 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: Louis Foxwell

Are you kidding me??? Objectivist philosophy is based on the absolute standards of right and wrong, good and evil.

Read just the first chapter to Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology.


26 posted on 10/31/2011 11:06:20 AM PDT by Raymann
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To: All

simple common sense?


27 posted on 10/31/2011 11:06:21 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Da Coyote
I really think CW II is coming, and I want to be waiting at the airport when Pelosi, Reid, et al try to escape.

It's quite a list, isn't it. Including the shadow government, the college professors, communists and anarchist now writing our laws and interpreting our Constitution.

No one in American History ever contemplated what would happen when the Attorney General went rogue; or how it could be set right.

28 posted on 10/31/2011 11:07:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Rand was a monster. Her atheism alone is reason enough to discount her barbaric philosophy.

As others have said, Her solution is off, but her premise is what is exactly happening today. I read it as more of what socialism/communism can do to a working persons will to work.

Without Christ there would have been no America and no American ideal of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Correct. That was something she lacked.

29 posted on 10/31/2011 11:08:09 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Para-Ord.45
here’s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.


31 posted on 10/31/2011 11:42:34 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Para-Ord.45
““You have sacrificed reason to faith.” (For example, attempts to prevent stem cell research on Biblical grounds, ....



Lost me right there.



First off, reason and faith are not necessarily in opposition. If your faith tells you that something is immoral, it is entirely reasonable to chose not to do it. You are then using reason to place your morality above baser considerations.



Second, a reasonable person would have learned that there is no conflict between morality and baser pragmatic considerations, with regard to most stem cell research. Only embryonic stem cell research involves insurmountable moral issues. Combine that with the fact that embryonic stem cell research has produced no viable therapies (and is unlikely to do so); while research has produced several promising therapies involving adult stem cells, or umbilical cord stem cells; and you have no reasonable conflict. Actually a reasonable person would stop wasting resources on embryonic stem cell research (just on pragmatic grounds); since there doesn't seem to be a path to profitability there.



The author is either ignorant about the issue — or is being deliberately misleading.

32 posted on 10/31/2011 11:55:00 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: sport

I don’t know if it is denial or just trying to get a real grasp of what is actually happening before committing to a real fix, if one exists.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 12:32:48 PM PDT by MCF
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To: justice14; Dr. Thorne

Ummm ... are you two out of your minds?

America is an expression of Masonic ideals, and do you know what?

Plenty of jews are masons. No Christ required.

YMMV.


34 posted on 10/31/2011 12:45:52 PM PDT by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Da Coyote
I really think CW II is coming, and I want to be waiting at the airport when Pelosi, Reid, et all try to escape.

Exactly! They can't be allowed to escape to their out of country sanctuaries.
35 posted on 10/31/2011 12:56:23 PM PDT by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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“You have sacrificed reason to faith.” (For example, attempts to prevent stem cell research on Biblical grounds

This is a deliberate lie... There have been attempts to prevent embryonic stem cell research, which has proven to be less than fruitful. They have pushed for adult stem cell research, which it seems has become quite hopeful. The whole reason the left wants to push for embryonic stem cell research is simply to help justify abortion with the general public.

Abortion is the "slavery" issue of the modern age. I'm not comparing abortion to slavery. What I mean is that the issue of abortion are the same as that of slavery. The "Missouri Compromise" didn't work. A compromise on abortion isn't any more workable.

Mark

36 posted on 10/31/2011 1:10:52 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: crosshairs

They’ll pull an Assata Shakur and hide out in Cuba.


37 posted on 10/31/2011 1:15:44 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: BfloGuy; ctdonath2
It may have been argued, but it could not have been argued reasonably.

So you say. I disagree, as it was argued by me, elsewhere.

I don't mean to be coy, but I'm not up to it right now. I will say this -- some honest and objective meditation on the subject might go a long way.

38 posted on 10/31/2011 1:16:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Someone obviously has NOT read her books.


39 posted on 10/31/2011 1:31:22 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Someone obviously has NOT read her books.

clearly.

40 posted on 10/31/2011 1:32:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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