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Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism
Townhall.com ^ | October 30, 2011 | Michael Youseff, The Church of The Apostles.

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

A number of years ago, I was on Larry King Live and was asked point-blank if I had a problem with the appointments of Justices Roberts and Alito (both are Roman Catholics). My answer was very clear that I did not, as long as they shared my own conviction of upholding the Constitution — not trying to rewrite it — and as long as they were committed to the Biblical values of the Founding Fathers. I was certain that both men were.

Many people today are quoting a statement reputedly made by Martin Luther, the great reformer, that he “would rather be ruled by a competent Turk (a Muslim) than an incompetent Christian.” First of all, there is no evidence whatsoever that Martin Luther ever said these words. But even if he did say them, it would have been a gross exaggeration used to make a point. He never lived under a Muslim ruler and did not know what that would be like. But I did. And I can tell you, there is no such thing as choosing between Muslim and non-Muslim leaders under Islam.

pastedGraphic.pdf In America, we have the great privilege of choosing candidates based on our core values, rather than how they identify with our theological point of view.

In looking at some of the candidates for the 2012 election, one cannot help but notice the controversies that have arisen regarding the Mormon religion. As I considered Luther’s quote and the concerns regarding electing a Mormon president, I noticed some peculiar similarities between the Mormon faith and Islam as they relate to orthodox Christianity.

It's hard to believe that two religions that are worlds apart geographically have so many things in common. Here are some examples:

1. Both believe that Christianity was corrupt and incomplete until their respective founders came on the scene. For Islam, it was Muhammad; for Mormons, it was Joseph Smith.

2. They both have their own book of “sacred scripture.” While both tip their hats to the Bible, each see God’s Word as insufficient by itself. Both Islam and Mormonism use many biblical themes, narratives and personalities. But the Qur’an draws heavily from the apocryphal books rather than the authoritative cannon of the Bible.

3. In both cases, Islam and Mormonism see their religion as complete within itself. Above all, both repudiate Biblical Christianity and identify orthodox Christianity as a false faith.

4. Both religions reject the doctrine of the Trinity. The Mormon’s concept of god includes many gods, not just one. Muslims view god as one, but as an aloof, remote god who could never become a man or relate to humanity. Allah can have mercy if he wants to, but he is also a cunning god.

5. Both religions reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient authority of faith. For Mormons, the Book of Mormon and other writings of the Latter Day Saints represent God’s final revelation. For Muslims, the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions of Muhammad) constitute God’s final authoritative word.

6. They both reject the Biblical teaching of original sin. Muslims believe Adam did not become completely depraved after disobeying God; he merely slipped but quickly recovered. Therefore to Muslims, humanity does not need redemption. Salvation in Islam is very uncertain, even when keeping the Five Tenants of Islam; although some teach that jihad will help in that quest for salvation. Mormons believe that they are not condemned by what many call “original sin.” In other words, they are not accountable for Adam’s transgression in the Garden of Eden.

Here are two questions Christians must ask when considering political candidates:

First, has the candidate been consistent in his/her political and moral values, or is he/she pandering? Second, has the candidate upheld their philosophical convictions throughout their public and private life, or did they change their political convictions to suit their audience?

All believers need to be good stewards and spend time in deep prayer before exercising their right to vote. God will give us wisdom so that we will not be persuaded by the slickest and the cleverest. We can trust Him to help us choose those who have proven core values.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; islam; mormon; mormonislam; mormonism
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To: cruise_missile
My wife is an X-mormon. She is a born again Christian. Praise the LORD!

Fantastic!!!

161 posted on 11/04/2011 12:54:53 PM PDT by svcw
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To: greyfoxx39

it stinks around here


162 posted on 11/04/2011 1:00:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: livius
Polygamy was something practiced by the Jews

NO it was not.

163 posted on 11/04/2011 1:14:45 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Kaslin

How about voting against Romney because he is nearly identical to BHO policy wise.


164 posted on 11/04/2011 1:18:16 PM PDT by svcw
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To: panaxanax

Show one post on FR that states mormons can;t practice their religion. You have made that charge dozens of times on FR but never provided a source.


165 posted on 11/04/2011 1:19:58 PM PDT by svcw
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To: svcw
NO it was not.

Tell that to King David (and Solomon and King ...)

166 posted on 11/04/2011 1:22:03 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: driftdiver

I am confused. If this is not a restricted post IE caucus, how is it harassment to post to you.
Why not just not respond.


167 posted on 11/04/2011 1:25:16 PM PDT by svcw
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To: NathanR

How about this.....read the Bible in a historical context.
Marriage is between one man and one woman, God is clear about it.


168 posted on 11/04/2011 1:28:21 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Eva
There are also commonalities between the Amish and the Muslims and Catholics and Muslims.

Huh?

(It is just the apron that is pinned on.)

169 posted on 11/04/2011 1:35:52 PM PDT by svcw
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To: svcw

yes you are confused.

Amazing to see so called Christians being so hateful.


170 posted on 11/04/2011 1:39:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: svcw

King Solomon


171 posted on 11/04/2011 1:40:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Biblical/theological disagreement with mormon doctrine isn’t “hate”.

It’s amazing to see so many so-called “conservatives” resorting to Alinskyite tactics and political correctness in order to stifle discussion/debate.

The last bastion of a losing argument is to throw out the “hate” label hoping it will stick.

Tiresome and boring. Try presenting a factual or at the least, a rational argument. If that’s not possible, then it would behoove you to refrain from whining when you get a helping of what you’ve been trying to dish out.


172 posted on 11/04/2011 2:09:26 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: driftdiver

So I am hateful.....
So anyone who posts to you is harassing....
So you are really......


173 posted on 11/04/2011 2:25:41 PM PDT by svcw
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To: driftdiver

Historical context is our friend.


174 posted on 11/04/2011 2:28:13 PM PDT by svcw
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To: svcw
Show me ONE mormon bashing post on FR. Just one.

But the genie said you get 3 wishes!


Is BrighamYoung lying?

"For unbelievers we will quote from the Scriptures - "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." Again - "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God."

 I will now give my scripture - "Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the kingdom of God on the earth, that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist.......

 - BrighamYoung

 

 

 

Here's some MORE for MORMON's...

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned; and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given, and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

- JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

 

 

It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.

I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.

- JoD 1:50-51 (April 9, 1852)

 

 

The rank, rabid abolitionists, whom I call black-hearted Republicans, have set the whole national fabric on fire. Do you know this, Democrats? They have kindled the fire that is raging now from the north to the south, and from the south to the north. I am no abolitionist, neither am I a proslavery man; I hate some of their principles and especially some of their conduct, as I do the gates of hell. The Southerners make the negroes, and the Northerners worship them; this is all the difference between slaveholders. and abolitionists. I would like the President of the United States and all the world to hear this.

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.

- JoD: vol.10 p. 110: (March 8, 1863)

It looks like BrighamYoung was pretty good at bashings.

175 posted on 11/04/2011 3:20:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw
Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn into a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

176 posted on 11/04/2011 3:20:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: driftdiver
it stinks around here


177 posted on 11/04/2011 3:23:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

He don’t wanna hear it!


178 posted on 11/04/2011 3:24:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: driftdiver
In the past Jim chewed me out for keeping an argument going.

HMMmm...

I wonder why??

Amazing to see so called Christians being so hateful.

179 posted on 11/04/2011 3:25:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SZonian
The last bastion of a losing argument is to throw out the “hate” label hoping it will stick.

Last?

I thought it appeared real early on!

180 posted on 11/04/2011 3:27:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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